You can ask a mod to move this thread to training logs if you want, I don’t imagine it would be a problem. If you’re interested in my results w Juggernaut, I copied this from an older thread on Juggernaut:
Juggernaut experience (short version)
Lifts from late March:
Last week of TJM:
My thoughts a bit more in-depth.
Bench - The 335 at the beginning was easy, and that was after not training bench for 3-4 months. My all-time bench PR is 365, so there was bound to be some initial gains. That said, right around the time I benched 365, I also did 315x6, and I was thisclose to locking out my sixth rep on the 320. So my rep strength is just about at an all-time strongest, and when I test 1RM a week or two later, I got 370.
Squat - 575 was done at the end of two months of work w the Safety Squat Bar. I may?ve been good for 585. All-time best two years ago was, I think, 585x2. Stood up w 600 for a double, but the video looked high. So I was happy w my starting strength, not sure how I feel about 475x8. It’s technically a PR (never had an 8RM before) and probably close to as strong as I’ve ever been, but I’m not sure. I’ve done 400x20 and 525x4, but don’t have rep records any closer to 8 reps. What I’m mostly annoyed about is that reps don’t necessarily carry over to 1RM for me, so I dunno if I’m stronger or what.
Press - this is the lift I’m happiest about. It’s a clear progression, same amount of weight, more reps. I’ve made great progress in this lift over the last year or so, and hope to continue that.
Deadlift - Pretty certain I twisted something in my back in the week leading up to this. Nothing hurt, but that is an all-time WTF moment for me. I’m still not happy w the DL results on TJM though, as the end of the previous month I’d done 445x7. Nothing special, as my 485x4 in March was done AFTER squatting and leaving 1-2 reps in the tank. So I’m pissed, the lift I needed the most improvement on, pffffft. Furthermore, I don’t think getting hurt was coincidence: I think the amount of lower body volume left me susceptible to injury.
Thoughts on the Juggernaut method in general:
Overall, I would say that TJM works, but there are other programs I’d recommend first. I understand that Chad is part-owner of a sports performance gym, so I can see why he does what he does. With athletes, 1RM strength is not as important as simply getting them lifting, and TJM is a simple program to follow. I do think it’s better suited to newer lifters with a younger training age.
If I were going to do this program again, I would change my PREP for the program (since I hate it when people change training programs. Then it’s not the coach/lifter’s program - it’s your own.) The changes I would make would be to focus on conditioning for 3 weeks or so prior to the start. Lots of sled dragging, high rep accessory stuff, and I would probably start 1 week w 2x10 on the main lifts, next week 3x10, then 4x10 and then start week 1 of the 10’s wave w the 5x10. Also, I might test my 3-5RM just to compare apples to apples. That’s if you’re interested in evaluating the program, if you have certain goals that you wish to improve on, by all means, test the goals.
That said, there’s too much emphasis on volume, and I’m now going to have to peak my lifts for a 1RM test, since I never actually touched heavy weight for most of the cycle. I would consider using the program again for upper body lifts, but not for lower body. There is a tremendous difference between pulling in a fatigued state, as after 4x10 or 6x3, and knowing how to strain w a heavy single.
I believe that the proof of this is in the pudding, as Wendler actually uses 5/3/1, whereas Chad has Josh Bryant program his Bench and DL training for him
Good things about TJM/Mitigating factors:
To begin with, I’m much happier with TJM than I was at this time last month. At the end of my 5’s Wave I did
So whatever the difference between the 5’s and the 3’s Wave, there may be some delayed supercompensation or something happening there. Or it could be due to the 5-8 lbs I gained in the last month and/or my use of stimulants prior to each of my last 4 sessions (not something I normally use)
I should also say that I, and other people, noticed increased size/muscularity on me at the end of the 10’s Wave or early to middle of the 8’s Wave. An added bonus, although not surprising with the volume.