I think it’s easy to defend Jones’ continuation of his championship because we’ve seen him fight more big-name fighters in the UFC. Many people still put UFC fight experience on a higher tier than other leagues, so naturally, when a fighter has spent his career not fighting in the UFC, it’s easy to discredit him. As Ben Henderson has proven, you can walk into the UFC later into your career and become a champion.
Another example - even though Nick Daiz fought a little in the UFC years back before he made his home in Strikeforce, his return to the UFC quickly put him back into the title contention picture. Who would have thought that he would beat up BJ Penn as badly as he did? (I’ll add BJ was thought to be one of the best boxers in MMA).
I don’t know if being a ‘dynamic striker’ is really necesary to beat Jones. I think Fedor was a good example of this idea. Fedor’s striking wasn’t about the volume or variation of strikes. He waited for his openings and threw everything he had into them. He could capitalize on a split second opportunity and use it to do major damage.
I don’t see Jones submitting Cormier (and he’s won a solid percentage of his last several fights via submission). If Jones win, I think it would be by decision, and he’d be badly hurt. [/quote]
Fedor was also very fast and explosive in his prime though, that speed advantage allowed him to beat some larger slower opponents (Rogers being the most recent example). Cormier is not a fast or explosive fighter. He is strong and his wrestling is very good, but he’s gotta get close enough to Jones to make those advantages useful, I don’t see him doing that.
I do agree with you though that he may end up winning via a decision as I’m not sure he possesses the power or accuracy to put Cormier down with strikes and although his submission game has been continuously improving, I’m not sure he’d be able to control Cormier on the ground like he has done to his previous opponents. But I don’t see him taking much damage in doing so or it really resembling anything like a competitive fight.[/quote]
I dont think jones can hurt Cormier on the feet, but i think he will hurt him on the ground.
Cormier is a great wrestler, and a strong guy, but the fact of the matter is he will not be so strong at LHW, and Jones has absolutely manhandled other great wrestlers (Bader, Vlad, Hammill)[/quote]
Cormier was the USA wrestling captain, I doubt he could take Cormier down. Standup wise he would get tagged a lot because he is slow and doesn’t have the reach to touch Jones.[/quote]
In a wrestling match I agree, but MMA wrestling is different than regular wrestling. It’s a lot different stopping a takedown when you can focus solely on grappling and assume a stance that is designed specifically for that purpose than when your opponent it punching you in the face, kicking you in the knees and doesn’t have to grapple with you at all. Jones is a better MMA wrestler than Cormier IMO (based on his success with it against opponents as well as his set ups and transitions) while Cormier is the better pure wrestler.
Jones only managed one takedown on Rashad and two on Rampage, I stand by my statement he would have an extremely hard time taking down someone who throws around HW’s and shrugs off their takedowns. [/quote]
Rashad has out wrestled Phil Davis, Tito, and Rampage; and Rampage has some of the best hips and takedown defense in all of MMA (and is one of the strongest fighters in MMA, especially on a pound for pound basis, as well). Rampage stuffed every single takedown attempted by Kevin Randleman (who has also fought at HW and thrown around some big name HW’s in his time).
Rampage and Rashad are also again much better strikers than Cormier and again, it’s a lot harder to Sprawl when you are being punched in the face.
Cormier has never faced anyone with the athleticism, well roundedness, reach advantage, or speed of Jon Jones (quite frankly because there aren’t any HW’s that fall into that category). Cormier is just not skilled enough as a striker to avoid getting tagged over and over with longe range punches to the face and kicks to the knees.
Just like what happened to Rampage, Rashad, and Belfort he will get picked apart, frustrated, and then when he is mentally off balance Jones can take him down if he wants to. And even if he can’t keep Cormier down, he can continue to keep the treat of the takedown alive, which only serves to keep Cormier mentally and physically off balance.
Not to mention that we are talking about Cormier cutting down to LHW, which he is not used to. Who knows how much of a strength advantage Cormier would still possess (if any), or how that would affect his gas tank.[/quote]
They’ll fight soon enough and I guarantee Jones will not take him down. [/quote]
Yeah, Jones has been tooling complete cans on the ground. Matyushenko was only the Russian national wrestling champion, and the best guy he ever wiped the floor with was olympic gold medal wrestler Kevin Jackson.
In all seriousness, i think you need to research the wrestling backgrounds of some of the guys that Jones has absolutely embarrassed. Jones has faced no less than 4 guys with wrestling backgrounds greater than anyone cormier has.
Cormier will never get close enough to Jones to get a TD if they ever fight, and a Jones will throw a 205lb Cormier to the mat like he does everyone else. Lets not forget that cormier will be lighter and weaker at 205 than he is now.