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Joe Biden May Toss His Hat Into The Ring!


#1

It just keeps getting better for the republicans. Seeing Hillary's poor poll numbers and high negatives seems to be prompting the gaffe machine himself old Joe Biden to perhaps toss his hat into the Presidential ring.

What is better than a 68 year old female who has a problem with the truth? A 72 year old white male who has a problem speaking. Should Joe Biden get into the race and actually beat Hillary for the nomination the 23% of females who call themselves feminists would most likely stay home, at least many of them. It would also be the first time since 1988 that republicans could actually win the female vote. The youth vote may also abandon the democratic contender. There are all kinds of great possibilities.


#2

As long as Trump is leading on the GOP side its too early to say a Biden race would ensure victory for republicans. He will steal votes from Sanders too which will help Hillary stay on top. She has quite the lead so far and hes just not the type of guy to change that.


#3

[quote]ZEB wrote:
It just keeps getting better for the republicans. Seeing Hillary’s poor poll numbers and high negatives seems to be prompting the gaffe machine himself old Joe Biden to perhaps toss his hat into the Presidential ring.

What is better than a 68 year old female who has a problem with the truth? A 72 year old white male who has a problem speaking. Should Joe Biden get into the race and actually beat Hillary for the nomination the 23% of females who call themselves feminists would most likely stay home, at least many of them. It would also be the first time since 1988 that republicans could actually win the female vote. The youth vote may also abandon the democratic contender. There are all kinds of great possibilities.

And then, with a new group voting for Team R, the Republican Party will shift its stances to accommodate/retain its new constituency, which is ignorant enough to shift its vote based on the fact that a 72-year-old man is nominated instead of a 68-year-old woman.


#4

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
As long as Trump is leading on the GOP side its too early to say a Biden race would ensure victory for republicans. He will steal votes from Sanders too which will help Hillary stay on top. She has quite the lead so far and hes just not the type of guy to change that.[/quote]

That lead she has is over Bernie Saunders. If Biden enters the race he will blow past Saunders and be right on Hillary’s tail. Biden is popular with the democrats and has a lot of good old boy support. While he is a gaffe machine at least he’s semi-honest compared to Hillary Clinton the Lying Machine. In fact. that is the one issue that is raising her negatives and lowering her possibilities of actually winning the White House, people DO NOT trust her. Should Biden enter the race I would give him about a 50/50 chance of taking Hillary down.


#5

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
It just keeps getting better for the republicans. Seeing Hillary’s poor poll numbers and high negatives seems to be prompting the gaffe machine himself old Joe Biden to perhaps toss his hat into the Presidential ring.

What is better than a 68 year old female who has a problem with the truth? A 72 year old white male who has a problem speaking. Should Joe Biden get into the race and actually beat Hillary for the nomination the 23% of females who call themselves feminists would most likely stay home, at least many of them. It would also be the first time since 1988 that republicans could actually win the female vote. The youth vote may also abandon the democratic contender. There are all kinds of great possibilities.

And then, with a new group voting for Team R, the Republican Party will shift its stances to accommodate/retain its new constituency, which is ignorant enough to shift its vote based on the fact that a 72-year-old man is nominated instead of a 68-year-old woman.[/quote]

Are you referring to women voting republican?


#6

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
It just keeps getting better for the republicans. Seeing Hillary’s poor poll numbers and high negatives seems to be prompting the gaffe machine himself old Joe Biden to perhaps toss his hat into the Presidential ring.

What is better than a 68 year old female who has a problem with the truth? A 72 year old white male who has a problem speaking. Should Joe Biden get into the race and actually beat Hillary for the nomination the 23% of females who call themselves feminists would most likely stay home, at least many of them. It would also be the first time since 1988 that republicans could actually win the female vote. The youth vote may also abandon the democratic contender. There are all kinds of great possibilities.

And then, with a new group voting for Team R, the Republican Party will shift its stances to accommodate/retain its new constituency, which is ignorant enough to shift its vote based on the fact that a 72-year-old man is nominated instead of a 68-year-old woman.[/quote]

Are you referring to women voting republican?
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I’m referring to anyone whose vote would shift based on the fact that a man received the Democratic Party nomination instead of a woman.
Edit: I think I misread your post-I believe you were just saying that with the feminist population staying home, the Republicans could get the majority of the female vote.


#7

I find it hard to believe that Biden is not owned by the same people that own Hillary


#8

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I find it hard to believe that Biden is not owned by the same people that own Hillary [/quote]

That’s because you think in terms of conspiracy all the time. There are actually a multiple of different factions within each party. That’s why Obama took Hillary down in 08’. His faction was stronger than the Clinton faction. And it may happen again to her. She is a very poor candidate whose negative numbers seem to grow each time they expose her to the public. Most people really don’t like her.

On the other hand Joe Biden is a very likeable gaffe clown. He is probably being pushed by the Obama faction to run. Obama does not want all of his left wing wacko changes to fall by the wayside should there be a new republican President eager to over turn the mess he’s made, (which Obama is quite proud of).

So, if you want to try to figure the whole thing out you have to stop thinking in terms of people “owning” other people. It’s about which candidate is able to smoke the other one in a primary. If the smart money things Biden can defeat Hillary suddenly her money flow from big democrat donors will cease.

You with me Pitt?


#9

Biden = Bam v2.0

I would make Biden run his mouth as much as possible, he will set a record on gaffes within a few interviews.

He is old, senile, and ready for the old folk’s home.


#10

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Biden = Bam v2.0

I would make Biden run his mouth as much as possible, he will set a record on gaffes within a few interviews.

He is old, senile, and ready for the old folk’s home. [/quote]

I think you hit the nail on the head with old Joe. But, it would certainly be fun to watch him for the next 16 months or so.

On the other hand just to give him his due he did pretty well debating Congressman Ryan during the previous Presidential race. I was actually surprised about how sharp he sounded…he had a very good night.


#11

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Biden = Bam v2.0

I would make Biden run his mouth as much as possible, he will set a record on gaffes within a few interviews.

He is old, senile, and ready for the old folk’s home. [/quote]

I think you hit the nail on the head with old Joe. But, it would certainly be fun to watch him for the next 16 months or so.

On the other hand just to give him his due he did pretty well debating Congressman Ryan during the previous Presidential race. I was actually surprised about how sharp he sounded…he had a very good night.
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It was more of Ryan being weak than Joe being strong. Give Joe a decent adversary and his dementia will kick in. Joe also had a slanted media helping him.

Biden and Jerry Brown need to share a room at the old folk’s home, or feeding pigeons in the park mumbling to each other.


#12

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Give Joe a decent adversary and his dementia will kick in.[/quote]

LOL that is one funny line!

That can’t be true Mufasa says that the media is completely fair. The obvious slant is all in our imagination.

[quote]Biden and Jerry Brown need to share a room at the old folk’s home, or feeding pigeons in the park mumbling to each other.
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Okay that’s twice you cracked me up–thank you :slight_smile:


#13

Joe Biden as the Democrat candidate used to appeal to me because it sounds like a slam dunk for the Republicans. But I’m starting to wonder if he isn’t a great candidate for the uninformed. I can see how he could win over a large part of the electorate with loud, incoherent, unsubstantiated bullshit.


#14

And you want to give this man the nuclear launch codes ?


#15

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

And you want to give this man the nuclear launch codes ?[/quote]

Wow, that video reminds everyone of how loose and unconnected Biden is. My favorite is when he asked the man in the wheel chair to stand up. Gotta love the guy and certainly hope he throws his hat in the Presidential ring.

Then the democrats will have a socialist, a confirmed liar and a gaffe machine. And not one of them with even an ounce of charisma - When things go well… they really go well!


#16

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

And you want to give this man the nuclear launch codes ?[/quote]

Wow, that video reminds everyone of how loose and unconnected Biden is. My favorite is when he asked the man in the wheel chair to stand up. Gotta love the guy and certainly hope he throws his hat in the Presidential ring.

Then the democrats will have a socialist, a confirmed liar and a gaffe machine. And not one of them with even an ounce of charisma - When things go well… they really go well!

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Imagine a debate with Hillary, Bernie, and Joe. I think watching paint dry would be more interesting.


#17

[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
Joe Biden as the Democrat candidate used to appeal to me because it sounds like a slam dunk for the Republicans. But I’m starting to wonder if he isn’t a great candidate for the uninformed. I can see how he could win over a large part of the electorate with loud, incoherent, unsubstantiated bullshit. [/quote]

How do you think Obama won? Take a good look at the typical democratic voter. The majority of the 47 million on food stamps are not voting republican…that is when they vote. Granted that is not every democratic voter, but their numbers grow.

But, no Biden can’t win. Obama at least had charisma and many other things going for him as a candidate, none of which Biden has.


#18

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I find it hard to believe that Biden is not owned by the same people that own Hillary [/quote]

Hillary is owned by Wall Street financial firms headquartered in NY while Biden is owned by commercial banks and financial services firms headquartered in Delaware.

See the difference?

/sarcasm…but true.