[quote]punchedbear wrote:
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I despise the barbell bench press as it is because I believe it to be a ruiner of shoulders, and not really necessary for combat sports that rely heavily on striking.
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If you watch the “So you think you can bench” series by Dave Tate, it addresses the proper way to bench to protect your shoulders from injury.[/quote]
I can’t learn to bench from an article. I’ve read it and tried, and with how fucked up my shoulders are, anything like that is going to be not worth my time or effort.
The bench simply isn’t important to me.
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It’s not an article it’s a 5 part video series on youtube. He talks about how he had shoulder pain, and how after he was taught to bench this way his shoulder pain stopped. Most of the video series is showing a new guy how to bench this way who also has shoulder problems.[/quote]
I am in the same boat as Irish with the bad shoulders. I dont barbell bench anymore as it hurts. And I have watched dave tates series and tried to learn from other good benchers and at this point just removed it from my workouts. It hurts and i can get around not doing it with other exercises. [/quote]
See that’s the thing - it’s just the point of diminishing returns for me. After checking those articles out, I’ve got to say they’re terrific, as everything Dave Tate does is. But, in the same way that I can’t learn to box from a video, I cannot learn to do what he’s talking about correctly through a video.
If he ever gave a seminar around here or something I would be the first one in line to give it a shot, cause I’d love to be able to bench again. But at this point, with the serious injuries I’ve had (multiple dislocations), what’s the point? I can punch harder than a mule kicks with my left hand (southpaw), and benching more or less isn’t going to change that.
And, it certainly isn’t going to give me more punching endurance, per se, so the usefulness for boxing just ain’t there to make it worth it. In my 5/3/1 I substitute bentover rows on that day, because when I throw a thousand punches a workout three or four days a week, I need all the back work I can get.
I still do dumbbell bench presses though, I’m just very careful with them. Hitting big numbers isn’t my game at this point.
Thanks though Grim, I’m going to save those articles and go over them again.