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Issue with E2, Help


#1

I have been using Test for years the wrong way. Finally when I try to do this the right way I cannot control my E2 levels. I used to take 1CC twice a week ( sorry never am good at keeping track by MG) I used to have no issues with this without and AI. Currently I have been places on .50 CC twice a week without AI. This was working fine but that test dose is not what im looking for. I gave yet to find the right level of AI as it appears that 0.5 twice a week doesnt work for me at all. I also dont want to go too high where it kills all of the E2. I am scheduled for blood work tomorrow to see exactly how high it currently is. I am still only taking 0.5 twice a week with no AI when i recently added Oxandrolone 50 MG tabs once a day it boosted me E2 again. Unfortunately I know the exact side effects to know when this happens. What is the recommended dosage for me being 0.5 does nothing. Thanks for any replys


#2

1mg, twice a week, divided doses.


#3

Thank you! I just took today I’ll try again on next injection day. I know estrogen has Togo down itself and that will just help with future estrogen. Do you know how long it takes to feel better. What a nightmare. Can I move to 1cc twice a week and still only take 1MG twice a week?


#4

Assuming it is 200mg/cc, that is 400mg/week, which is a lot for TRT. Is that what you took “for years”? Regarding AI dosing, really cannot say without lab results. Some respond very quickly and are more sensitive to E2 fluctuations, however, if the dose is correct you should feel better quickly.


#5

Yes 400MG is what I took for years. But I have been doing 200MG recently. I will get lab work done today to check levels and it will show levels based on me taking 1.0 AI twice a week on injection days and will then post results thanks for your help


#6

While Oxandrolone does not aromatize–>E2 it can affect the liver and interfere with your liver’s ability to clear estrogens and thus indirectly can increase estrogens.

You do not need Oxandrolone!

AST and ALT labs while on Oxandrolone will be of interest.

You need to refine your protocol via lab work and lab work needs to represent a protocol. You messed that up.

Most need 1mg anastrozole for every 100mg T ester. But a few are anastrozole over-responders who need 1/4th of that amount to avoid crashing E2. So you E2 problems appear to be from under dosing anastrozole.

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#7

Thank you very much for your reply. I am going to do my blood work this morning and will repost for further hope. I will also lose the Oxandrolone.