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Israel on the March


#1

Two Israeli missile class warships have sailed through the Suez Canal, ten days after a submarine capable of launching a nuclear missile strike, in preparation for a possible attack on Iranâ??s nuclear facilities.

The deployment into the Red Sea, confirmed by Israeli officials, was a clear signal that Israel was able to put its strike force within range of Iran at short notice. It came before long-range exercises by the Israeli air force in America later this month and the test of a missile defense shield at a U.S. missile range in the Pacific Ocean.

Israel has strengthened ties with Arab nations who also fear a nuclear-armed Iran. In particular, relations with Egypt have grown increasingly strong this year over the â??shared mutual distrust of Iranâ??, according to one Israeli diplomat. Israeli naval vessels would likely pass through the Suez Canal for an Iranian strike.

â??This is preparation that should be taken seriously. Israel is investing time in preparing itself for the complexity of an attack on Iran. These maneuvers are a message to Iran that Israel will follow up on its threats,â?? an Israeli defense official said.

It is believed that Israelâ??s missile-equipped submarines, and its fleet of advanced aircraft, could be used to strike at in excess of a dozen nuclear-related targets more than 800 miles from Israel.

Ahmed Aboul Gheit, the Egyptian Foreign Minister, said that his Government explicitly allowed passage of Israeli vessels, and an Israeli admiral said that the drills were â??run regularly with the full co-operation of the Egyptians.â??

Two Israeli Saar class missile boats and a Dolphin class submarine have passed through Suez. Israel has six Dolphin-class submarines, three of which are widely believed to carry nuclear missiles.

Looks like things are about to get interesting.


#2

I just saw that article. Interesting indeed. Lixy should be along shortly.


#3

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I just saw that article. Interesting indeed. Lixy should be along shortly.[/quote]

I expect him to and hopefully JTF will make an appearance.


#4

Goddammit, Israel will destroy the world.


#5

Meh, its just like the arms race between the USSR and the USA except with a lot more tension and hostility between the nations. I personally think its a wise move since iran has gone nuclear.


#6

[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
Meh, its just like the arms race between the USSR and the USA except with a lot more tension and hostility between the nations. I personally think its a wise move since iran has gone nuclear.[/quote]

I don’t think Israel is playing around. There going to level Iran’s nuclear sites. But another interesting thing I have noticed. Isn’t it nice how Israel and Egypt are getting along now.

Edit*

I think what we are seeing here is a trade. Israel takes out Iran’s nuclear sites and Iran’s enemies(everyone else in the mid east) acknowledges them as a state.


#7

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I just saw that article. Interesting indeed. Lixy should be along shortly.[/quote]

What am I? The resident “interesting”-article-analyst?

Anyway, Iran is no Syria or even Iraq. Their capability to cause serious harm to Israel is real. Israel knows that and probably wouldn’t want to open that can worms. If Iran is attacked, it will predominantly be by the US (which I doubt will happen at the moment). Israel’s got too much to lose in this story. It can live with Iran getting a more predominant position in the region. But it can’t afford to take on such a big fight. Not if it’s not forced into it at least. And no, Iran will not nuke Israel with nukes it doesn’t have.

Now, instead of discussing far-fetched scenarios, how come nobody is interested in these latest revelations?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8149464.stm


#8

True, the US would be the first to act. I think this is just a show of force by Israel, who is more than capable of killing everyone in Iran if they really wanted to. Hopefully the Iranian gov’t doesn’t do anything stupid and get alot of Iranians killed.


#9

Israel is trying to strike the deal:

You let Israel take Iran out of the arms game, and Israel will recognize the Palestinian State. But Jerusalem will always be an issue I think regardless.

I think Israel can go this one alone with little support, and Obama will be “Deeply Concerned”, but will he get the credit for helping in bulding a Palestinian State while disarming Iran at the same time?


#10

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#11

I foresee many civilian casualties.


#12

[quote]lixy wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I just saw that article. Interesting indeed. Lixy should be along shortly.

What am I? The resident “interesting”-article-analyst?

Anyway, Iran is no Syria or even Iraq. Their capability to cause serious harm to Israel is real. Israel knows that and probably wouldn’t want to open that can worms. If Iran is attacked, it will predominantly be by the US (which I doubt will happen at the moment). Israel’s got too much to lose in this story. It can live with Iran getting a more predominant position in the region. But it can’t afford to take on such a big fight. Not if it’s not forced into it at least. And no, Iran will not nuke Israel with nukes it doesn’t have.

Now, instead of discussing far-fetched scenarios, how come nobody is interested in these latest revelations?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8149464.stm[/quote]

Not surprising in the least. Israel doing it’s thing as they did for a long time, but only now it’s coming to the surface “officially”.
A powerful Iran is needed in the region to check and balance.


#13

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Goddammit, Israel will destroy the world.[/quote]

With all the firepower on all sides, sooner or later something is going to happen. This round, its probably just a show of force and some saber-rattling disguised as a “military exercise”.

BG