The difference between dog breeds and the difference between races of humans is probably the best example of apples and oranges I’ve ever seen.
Dog breeds are such that one dog can quite literally be 10x the size of another dog. If you still can’t break down races beyond a dog analogy you might want to get on that.
You’re putting a 1.2x height difference akin to a 10x size difference? Wot? I’m now imagining a world where Raj has been elected and he passed something that limits people based on race. When asked how they’re going to put everyone in buckets Raj goes “idk just do it like dogs, okay?”
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Edit: especially when you can’t even define dog races beyond purebreds
I should first explain my definition of “race.” In biological tradition the word race is simply synonymous with the terms “subspecies” or “variety.” The basic unit of classification in modern taxonomy is the species. A species is usually said to consist of a set of individuals capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring. If the offspring are not healthy and fertile, then the parent types are considered separate species. Mules are usually sterile so horses and donkeys are thought to be separate species.
However, in biology things are often fuzzy around the edges, and so it is with species. Sometimes what are considered to be separate species in nature can and will freely interbreed when brought together by man. Sometimes their hybrid offspring are partially or fully fertile. As one example of the fuzziness of species, consider Canis familiaris, the common dog, and Canis lupus, the Eurasian wolf. They are considered to be separate species because their habitats and life-styles are different. Within the dog species itself there are many varieties that are quite different in physiology and behavior. The tiny Mexican Chihuahua, would have a hard time mating with an Irish Wolfhound, but they are considered to be of the same species.
When wolves encounter dogs, they usually eat them. But sometimes they mate with them. When they mate it is almost always the male wolf with the female dog. The reverse is rare — male dogs are almost never able to mate with female wolves. The hybrid puppies are usually fully fertile, so by this definition Canis lupus and Canis familiaris are not different species. The point is that species and races are concepts of classification that often blur around the edges. This is because of the very nature of biological reality.
These days humans are thought to constitute one species — Homo sapiens. Humans are in many respects typical of geographically widespread mammalian species in that we are polymorphic (meaning we have “many forms”). This is what appears to us as individual differences. The bell-curve distribution of so many traits — height, weight, strength, intelligence, and the like — illustrates polymorphic traits. We are also typical among widespread mammals in being a polytypic species. Polytypic means “many types;” it is simply a fact of biological reality that not all different groups of humans are the same. Naturally occurring polytypic groups within a species are called varieties, subspecies, or races.
This does absolutely nothing to practically bucket humans into races. Finding an expert quote saying races exist is useless if you can’t actually apply it.
For the record, I believe race exists. I just accept that in a world of 7 billion people with our level of intermingling, applying races to the population with anywhere near an acceptable margin of error is impossible.
The medical field routinely applies races based on how people self identify (as long as the self id is within reason). Are you suggesting we let the planet self identify their races?
Which I understand. What I don’t understand is how hospitals are deciding people’s races without running DNA tests, and if a DNA test is run, how do they drop people into buckets based on the % that come back. Especially if they don’t work off self identification (within reason) as you say.