A French city on the Mediterranean coast, famous for its beaches, waterfront promenades and a laid back lifestyle with a sizeable Muslim minority has been subjected to a despicable and vicious terrorist onslaught - terror attacks that are specifically targeting civilians and the places where college age kids congregate - theaters, eateries, clubs and bars.
The most frightening aspect of this terror campaign is its apparent randomness - it seems that the terrorists can strike anyone, anywhere and anytime, with the sole purpose of creating mayhem and killing as much innocents as possible.
Itās Algiers and the year is 1959.
Itās hard to believe that less than 60 years ago Algiers, the capital of what is now Algeria had a majority European population, was mostly catholic and was more renowned for its cathedral that for its mosques.
Nor did those hundreds of thousands of Europeans living in Algiers at the time could imagine that in a few yearsā time theyāll be forced to leave their homes in a matter of days, with one suitcase allowed per person, creating the largest European refugee crisis before the current one, although the former one was completely ignored by the media.
The players are the same, the events switched to the northern shores of the Mediterraneanā¦
Human history is demographics in the long run. People living at religious and ethnic fault lines are very aware of this fact.
Not sufficiently imo. Many Muslims are born into a situation where there is no alternative to being a Muslim. It essentially the same things as identifying with your race. They arenāt subscribing to Islam by choice, theyāre born into it.
Okay, I guess you werenāt really talking to me then.
Wait. I canāt blame a large group for a small percentage because the large group you put me in does bad stuff? Hypocritical much? Our? I donāt have a gang problem. Iām not in one. I donāt have a murder problem. Iāve never killed anyone. Why should the actions of a minority of Americans impact my rights to talk about Islam? You are arguing against group guilt and simultaneously using group guilt in your argument.
but the fact is KKK twitter is actually representative of the KKK. What is your logical reason for dismissing the the hatred and blood lust of arabic twitter? why doesnāt it matter?
Your claim is that the hatred of KKKās twitter is a minority and shouldnāt affect our evaluation of the KKK? The racism and hatred of the KKK twitter is just a loud minority of the KKK?
Again, Iāve explained the difference her already. But Iām saying that many many individual muslims are on board with violence. We canāt judge all those people posting on twitter?
Again, you ignored my argument.
āI donāt believe it is rational to expect a Shitte Muslim born in Montana to condemn [ā¦] ISIS in Iraqā Maybe a miscommunication then.
"Thatās fucking nonsense. Why would a peaceful Muslim living in Montana give a shit what some brainwashed asshat in Afghanistan is doing? "
No, we have not done anything remotely equivalent. but your answer is youād do nothing? No offense intended, but in my book that would make you not a real Christian.
Actually, you did that far more than me. And far more negatively I might add.
Stupid hypothetical. Though itās ironic because people there arenāt Christian because the Muslisms exterminated them. And if a US solder had been born in Germany in the 1930ās he could have been a Nazi, therefore, US solders canāt condemn the Nazis. Funny thing here is that (though Iām not the determinist you seem to be) I largely agree. Terrorists are primarily the product of their Islamic cultural surroundings. Nor does pity absolve anyone. As a Christian I should pity all Godās children that go to hell, but the catch here is pity is due to their guilt and responsibility.
And you didnāt answer before, so Iāll ask once more. Genuine question Iām curious to hear your take on. What then is the difference between Islam and other major religions. Why have all the other ones modernized and progressed? Why does Islam produce these unique problems?
If they do not believe that the Koran is truth and Muhamad is Godās profit, itās pretty universally agreed that they arenāt Muslim. Nor do any non-believers of this type blow themselves up shouting āgod is greatā so itās kinda moot.
Okay DD, youāre perverting everything Iāve written to try and paint me in some weird box and Iām done with it.
Iāve only written 50 fucking times in variois threads including this one that we should just kill ISIS off, but whatever, if misrepresenting what Iāve read makes you happy, go for it.
Thereās a guy in this thread who is arguing Muslims in India are peaceful non-violent people.
The country literally split largely because it was determined Hindus and Muslims couldnāt live peacefully alongside each other.
Now Pakistan (the Muslim partition) is a complete violent shit hole. In India the Muslim minority are in regular tension with the Hindu majority. Bombings, attacks, ethnic cleansing and societal tension.
This is what non-violent Muslims look like. Either purposely lying or bigotry of low expectations.
Iām not sure how directly quoting you is perverting your words. And while you can continue to ignore and obfuscate as much as you want, the ādo nothingā line of discussion and my comment were not about ISIS. Youāve made your wildly hypocritical and self defeating stance on ISIS clear.
AFAIK the topic has shifted several times but it got started on terrorism. And Bangladesh isnāt India anyways.
I understook USMC to be making the point that relations in India between Muslims and others are largely peaceful even with a large percentage of the population that is muslim, not that 100% of all muslims in India were peaceful or that violence never happened. As far as I know, that doesnāt hold true for any religion or ideology in any country on this planet, so to claim that is absurd. Since I know USMC is not insane, I didnāt take his statement that way.
Well, probably true. On the other hand if one makes an explicit or implicit claim to being the only one bringing up an academically rigorous argumentā¦and takes others to task regarding logical fallacies and the structure of logicā¦and intimates that they are smarter than everybody elseā¦well then Iād say they had probably not be quoting Wikipedia with any serious regularity (at least for things above a rudimentary common knowledge). If weāre talking opinion or anything else under the sun itās no big deal. If on the other hand someone decides to try to do what verne did and then berate others, I think he probably earned it.
