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Is it Support or Worshipping of Obama?

I’d like to start this thread about the unusual effects Obama has had on our population, especially the young, minorities and white liberals.

The wave of emotion and support, to me, looks like more of a worshipping, than support of a candidate. This is possibly the scariest thing I have noticed about BO’s supporters.

It’s my theory that these people are more driven by emotion than policies. I also believe many of them have completely unrealistic expectations of what this elect will do.

The scary part too, is that this kind of elation, causes sect and mob-like thinking. When this phenomenon occurs, look out. Dictators love this stuff and it sets the stage for a dictatorship. Especially when so many blindly follow. I am fully convinced these people are willing to give up their constitutional rights to one person on a promise and hope of a Utopian life.

The era of Hitler, comes to mind. The USSR comes to mind also.

Watch this video, and tell me if you think these people are showing support or worshipping.

I’m expecting to be attacked via keyboard here, but this is a topic worth discussing.

LOL…leave it to FOX news…cause we all just know they stay on top of their shit. I guess that automatically was an Obama supporter.

I guess the guy trying to take the flag was just trying to keep her hushed…lol.

What would be more interesting is the “unusual” and ridiculous effects that Obama’s election is having on those who are obviously scared shitless with him being President.

This is a perfect example of the fear mongering crap that is being spewed.

Oh no, the way they repeat his words as he talks reminds of being at a catholic church, only been o one a couple of tiems, but it is creepy

It is like the Yes We Can mantra has some sort of hypnotic power to people with weak minds or something.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
LOL…leave it to FOX news…cause we all just know they stay on top of their shit. I guess that automatically was an Obama supporter.

I guess the guy trying to take the flag was just trying to keep her hushed…lol.

What would be more interesting is the “unusual” and ridiculous effects that Obama’s election is having on those who are obviously scared shitless with him being President.

This is a perfect example of the fear mongering crap that is being spewed.[/quote]

I don;'t call realstically looking at someones political past and it’s affects on the area fear mongering, maybe if more people actually looked at what this man did to help make Chicago the shining beacon it is they would have the same appreciation, but that would be too much to expect.

[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
LOL…leave it to FOX news…cause we all just know they stay on top of their shit. I guess that automatically was an Obama supporter.

I guess the guy trying to take the flag was just trying to keep her hushed…lol.

What would be more interesting is the “unusual” and ridiculous effects that Obama’s election is having on those who are obviously scared shitless with him being President.

This is a perfect example of the fear mongering crap that is being spewed.

I don;'t call realstically looking at someones political past and it’s affects on the area fear mongering, maybe if more people actually looked at what this man did to help make Chicago the shining beacon it is they would have the same appreciation, but that would be too much to expect.[/quote]

So I guess people waving Communist flags…calling him a Socialist…etc…is realistically looking at his political past. Hell people are acting like we’ll be under fucking totalitarian rule when he takes office. When I hear “I guess we’ll be North vs. South again…Texas should become a Republic so we don’t become white slaves.” Some of the stupiest shit I’ve ever heard in my life.

Maybe you should be trying to educate those that ARE fear mongering…instead of acting as if its not there.

You fail…try again.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
LOL…leave it to FOX news…cause we all just know they stay on top of their shit. I guess that automatically was an Obama supporter.

I guess the guy trying to take the flag was just trying to keep her hushed…lol.

What would be more interesting is the “unusual” and ridiculous effects that Obama’s election is having on those who are obviously scared shitless with him being President.

This is a perfect example of the fear mongering crap that is being spewed.

I don;'t call realstically looking at someones political past and it’s affects on the area fear mongering, maybe if more people actually looked at what this man did to help make Chicago the shining beacon it is they would have the same appreciation, but that would be too much to expect.

So I guess people waving Communist flags…calling him a Socialist…etc…is realistically looking at his political past. Hell people are acting like we’ll be under fucking totalitarian rule when he takes office.

When I hear “I guess we’ll be North vs. South again…Texas should become a Republic so we don’t become white slaves.” Some of the stupiest shit I’ve ever heard in my life.

Maybe you should be trying to educate those that ARE fear mongering…instead of acting as if its not there.

You fail…try again.[/quote]

Boss,

I don’t think it is fear mongering to say the man is pretty much a socialist. An argument can at least be made for that on his past writings, things he has said and his associations.

Is he going to launch a full scale Communist revolution or would he even want to? That is probably fear mongering. I’m figuring he is going to flirt somewhat with European socialism maybe along the lines of France. He won’t be able to get too much done. If you disagree with him, the Supreme Court is your biggest reasonable fear.

Just playing out some of this crazy talk for a minute, if you wanted to institute a violent revolution in this country, do you turn to wealthy liberal-types and college kids?

Maybe it has worked in other countries, but in the US the more “right-leaning” types are generally far better armed, trained and disciplined. It wouldn’t be much of a fight. I have been around many trigger-pullers. Hundreds if not thousands and they all pretty much fit into the above description of generally “right leaning”.

But that is not where we are going.

Most of the people for Obama and I do mean MOST on my campus are fanatical about him. I have a McCain shirt and whenever I wear it I get Yelled at. This is in class, on the street etc.

I am sure that some of my professors are bias toward him to and my shirt pissed them off. It is crazy its like if you don’t support their candidate then your not American? I couldn’t put a bumper sticker on my car because I’m sure it would have been keyed.

Anyway those socialist are crazy about their candidate. They can’t wait for him to cut army funding and give them more welfare state services.

[quote]1porsche wrote:
Most of the people for Obama and I do mean MOST on my campus are fanatical about him. I have a McCain shirt and whenever I wear it I get Yelled at.

This is in class, on the street etc. I am sure that some of my professors are bias toward him to and my shirt pissed them off. It is crazy its like if you don’t support their candidate then your not American?

I couldn’t put a bumper sticker on my car because I’m sure it would have been keyed. Anyway those socialist are crazy about their candidate. They can’t wait for him to cut army funding and give them more welfare state services.[/quote]

So now we’re calling fellow Americans socialists,too?? The things you mention happen on both sides…neither side holds a monopoly on stupidity. Reinforcing it doesn’t help either.

I hope he can cut Army funding by keeping these soldiers from buying Chargers and Escalades with monster truck rims and platinum grills,chains,and belt buckles.

Maybe he can help by weeding out the thugs that occupy the U.S.Army…thats wasted tax dollars,IMO. Sorry you had to take on my rant…nothing personal.

Bah. Get over it guys. His winning means something… regardless of whatever the hell he does or does not accomplish.

Anyway, it may cheer you up to recall that the public is damned fickle. Once he starts fucking up, which many of you are hoping for, he’ll lose so-called “followers”.

However, let’s be realistic, he could dance naked on the lawn of the white house as his main policy initiative and end up with a better legacy than Bush.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
1porsche wrote:
Most of the people for Obama and I do mean MOST on my campus are fanatical about him. I have a McCain shirt and whenever I wear it I get Yelled at. This is in class, on the street etc. I am sure that some of my professors are bias toward him to and my shirt pissed them off.

It is crazy its like if you don’t support their candidate then your not American? I couldn’t put a bumper sticker on my car because I’m sure it would have been keyed. Anyway those socialist are crazy about their candidate. They can’t wait for him to cut army funding and give them more welfare state services.

So now we’re calling fellow Americans socialists,too?? The things you mention happen on both sides…neither side holds a monopoly on stupidity. Reinforcing it doesn’t help either.

I hope he can cut Army funding by keeping these soldiers from buying Chargers and Escalades with monster truck rims and platinum grills,chains,and belt buckles. Maybe he can help by weeding out the thugs that occupy the U.S.Army…thats wasted tax dollars,IMO. Sorry you had to take on my rant…nothing personal.[/quote]

That’s ok. But I’m still waiting on my Escalade with monster truck rims.

[quote]1porsche wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
1porsche wrote:
Most of the people for Obama and I do mean MOST on my campus are fanatical about him. I have a McCain shirt and whenever I wear it I get Yelled at.

This is in class, on the street etc. I am sure that some of my professors are bias toward him to and my shirt pissed them off. It is crazy its like if you don’t support their candidate then your not American? I couldn’t put a bumper sticker on my car because I’m sure it would have been keyed.

Anyway those socialist are crazy about their candidate. They can’t wait for him to cut army funding and give them more welfare state services.

So now we’re calling fellow Americans socialists,too?? The things you mention happen on both sides…neither side holds a monopoly on stupidity. Reinforcing it doesn’t help either.

I hope he can cut Army funding by keeping these soldiers from buying Chargers and Escalades with monster truck rims and platinum grills,chains,and belt buckles.

Maybe he can help by weeding out the thugs that occupy the U.S.Army…thats wasted tax dollars,IMO. Sorry you had to take on my rant…nothing personal.

That’s ok. But I’m still waiting on my Escalade with monster truck rims.
[/quote]

You’ll understand when you make your way to Fort Hood.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Bah. Get over it guys. His winning means something… regardless of whatever the hell he does or does not accomplish.

Anyway, it may cheer you up to recall that the public is damned fickle. Once he starts fucking up, which many of you are hoping for, he’ll lose so-called “followers”.

However, let’s be realistic, he could dance naked on the lawn of the white house as his main policy initiative and end up with a better legacy than Bush.[/quote]

No doubt…if he starts fucking up…I’m gonna have to “pull his card.” Na’mean??

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
1porsche wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
1porsche wrote:
Most of the people for Obama and I do mean MOST on my campus are fanatical about him. I have a McCain shirt and whenever I wear it I get Yelled at. This is in class, on the street etc. I am sure that some of my professors are bias toward him to and my shirt pissed them off.

It is crazy its like if you don’t support their candidate then your not American? I couldn’t put a bumper sticker on my car because I’m sure it would have been keyed. Anyway those socialist are crazy about their candidate. They can’t wait for him to cut army funding and give them more welfare state services.

So now we’re calling fellow Americans socialists,too?? The things you mention happen on both sides…neither side holds a monopoly on stupidity. Reinforcing it doesn’t help either.

I hope he can cut Army funding by keeping these soldiers from buying Chargers and Escalades with monster truck rims and platinum grills,chains,and belt buckles.

Maybe he can help by weeding out the thugs that occupy the U.S.Army…thats wasted tax dollars,IMO. Sorry you had to take on my rant…nothing personal.

That’s ok. But I’m still waiting on my Escalade with monster truck rims.

You’ll understand when you make your way to Fort Hood.[/quote]

HaHa my roommate was there for AIT. He said there wasn’t anything but heat and a couple of narsty strip clubs. (He turned 21 when he was there so he has some fucked up stories.)

[quote]1porsche wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
1porsche wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
1porsche wrote:
Most of the people for Obama and I do mean MOST on my campus are fanatical about him. I have a McCain shirt and whenever I wear it I get Yelled at.

This is in class, on the street etc. I am sure that some of my professors are bias toward him to and my shirt pissed them off. It is crazy its like if you don’t support their candidate then your not American?

I couldn’t put a bumper sticker on my car because I’m sure it would have been keyed. Anyway those socialist are crazy about their candidate. They can’t wait for him to cut army funding and give them more welfare state services.

So now we’re calling fellow Americans socialists,too?? The things you mention happen on both sides…neither side holds a monopoly on stupidity. Reinforcing it doesn’t help either.

I hope he can cut Army funding by keeping these soldiers from buying Chargers and Escalades with monster truck rims and platinum grills,chains,and belt buckles.

Maybe he can help by weeding out the thugs that occupy the U.S.Army…thats wasted tax dollars,IMO. Sorry you had to take on my rant…nothing personal.

That’s ok. But I’m still waiting on my Escalade with monster truck rims.

You’ll understand when you make your way to Fort Hood.

HaHa my roommate was there for AIT. He said there wasn’t anything but heat and a couple of narsty strip clubs. (He turned 21 when he was there so he has some fucked up stories.)[/quote]

LOL…I’m sure I can back almost everything he says about Killeen.

To answer the OP - both?

Obama’s election was a pop-culture movement, not a particularly political one. Get 10 Obama supporters in a room and I would wager that 7 of them couldn’t tell you anything remotely substantive about Obama’s policy approaches - and yet they voted for him anyway.

It was an historic election in terms of race - and we should all be proud of that particular aspect. I know I am.

But, a day after the inauguration, he isn’t a “black” president, he is just Mr. President - and he has to govern.

The cult-like atmosphere surrounding Obama has done us a disservice, largely because it obscured a good measure of the man, not the marketing.

The political landscape is unbelievable - two wars, international mischief brewing unrelated to those wars, a financial crisis of generational proportions - and amazingly, America elected a man we know almost nothing about in terms of what he plans on doing to address those issues.

Again, this was a pop-culture phenomenon - and a substantive gamble.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
The cult-like atmosphere surrounding Obama has done us a disservice, largely because it obscured a good measure of the man, not the marketing.

The political landscape is unbelievable - two wars, international mischief brewing unrelated to those wars, a financial crisis of generational proportions - and amazingly, America elected a man we know almost nothing about in terms of what he plans on doing to address those issues.
[/quote]

Get out of Iraq?
Focus on Afghanistan/Al-Queda?
Have a foreign policy involving communication?
Lower taxes for much of the middle class?
An alternative energy program?
Additional scrutiny of free trade agreements?
Another whack at health care?

I know, some of the other issues you raised weren’t really focused on during the campaign, but it’s not true that policy initiatives were not presented and discussed. Whether or not they happen in any reasonable time frame is another issue.

I guess it just depends on whether or not you’ve seen enough of him to trust that he has judgment. Apparently many around here consider him an “enemy” and obviously don’t trust him at all. The FUD campaign certainly helped create that atmosphere.

[quote]vroom wrote:

Get out of Iraq?
Focus on Afghanistan/Al-Queda?
Have a foreign policy involving communication?
Lower taxes for much of the middle class?
An alternative energy program?
Additional scrutiny of free trade agreements?
Another whack at health care[/quote]

Minus the scrutiny of free trade agreements, what you just listed above was John McCain’s platform as well - so you illustrate my point.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Minus the scrutiny of free trade agreements, what you just listed above was John McCain’s platform as well - so you illustrate my point.[/quote]

Well, if you couldn’t tell the campaigns apart… :wink:

I don’t know, this seems to be the only criticism of Obama that I find somewhat valid. His handlers and his campaign have presented him with such a regal manner it almost seems we’re getting a redux of the imperial presidency…

Even his acceptance speech on the dais which projected out into the crowd, a little too king-like for my taste.

I’ll admit that I was wrong. I thought McCain would win. That said, here’s a fun piece of information…

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive

mike