[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
I am going to start doing Hip Belt Squats this week…as soon as the damn belt arrives.
When people talk about ATG squats are they are talking about descending untill the hamstrings contact the calves?
In the past I have always stopped when the tops of my thighs were parallel to the floor. If I went below that it started to thrash my back during 20 reps sets.
I guess my question is this: If a person is just training fitness is it really necessary to go below parallel?[/quote]
It’s a question I ask myself every single day. If squatting too low is not necessary, then the classic bent-leg deadlift really should suffice for maximum quad stimulation because for me it really is a quarter squat with the weights held in front.
In fact, just like squat-built people find that their squat and deadlift are awfully close, I find that my regular deadlift and quarter squat are about the same.
The squat depth thing has always seemed arbtirary to me. The same guys who sceam “ass to grass or die, bitch!” (and I used to be one of them) and who poo poo the pigeons in the gym doing quarter squats and high-fiving each other are often the same dudes who give props to guys doing 1000-lb good mornings in a rubber band suit. The arguments about form seem to fly out the window when we talk about professional PL meets.
Yes, I know that PL squats and Oly squats are entirely different, apples and oranges, but it’s really a case of a bunch of guys getting together and making up arbitrary rules about what depth counts on the basis of what allows one to handle the most impressive weight, win contests and generate interest in PL as a spectator sport.
Squatting too low is possible I suppose, but what counts as low depends on your build. Those stumpy-limbed folks tend to be able to go awfully far down without posterior rotation. I’m not convinced that taller or more long-limbed-to-torso folks should go down to the point where that rotation occurs. For me this is just a hair below parallel.
At that point my natural shitty leverages keep me from staying very tight, at least in a manner that allows me to demonstrate much strength. That position sucks for me and no matter how many squat-advantaged people tell me ass-to-the-floor or else, I may be better off by working intelligently within the limitations of physical characteristics that I cannot change. So maybe there is such a thing as too low for some of us and we would progress a lot further by staying a little high, i.e. parallel.