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Is It OK To Be White? I'm Not Sure


#427

You are referring to a parenting style that the gen xers experienced. The current kids you see are not subject to this. Even then, I do not think Asians who are not born in shitty or less tolerant societies have a lack of these:


#428

I know quite a bit about directly competing against those kids, both in school, and in the job market as a young adult. As long as base requirements are met, the well adjusted, sociable person has the advantage. Then again, I don’t know too many folks with strict asian parents getting into forestry, trades, k-12 education, LEO, etc. All of which can and do provide fulfilling, meaningful, and financially stable careers. Being materially wealthy isn’t everything for everyone.


#429

I am a millennial and would disagree with you whole heartedly. I’m glad your experience has been different than mine though, gives hope for the future haha


#430

The problem in America is that we tell kids that the present is the best time of their lives. We want kids to have some “perfect” and happy childhood and when they become adults they will fondly look back on the best years of their lives since it’s all downhill after high school. Maybe for some adults high school was their high point. If you give your kid a “miserable” childhood so they have a happier adulthood you’re like literally Hitler.


#431

Actually, I was a product of parents that would smack you at the dinner table for putting your elbows on the table.

If you are talking certain traits of kids you have met, then you are forgetting that there are cultural traits and behaviors of different races and children aren’t just molded by style of parenting, but largely from the way their parents behave and think.


#432

It’s similar in Asia now.


#433

I think I misread you previous post and which part of my post you were referring to.

It also has a lot to do with the social circle your kid has and the way those kids are parented and influenced.

I am simply not a fan of controlling, parents who are intent on their kids fitting a predetermined mold.


#434

I responded to Basement’s suggestion that his kids marry Asian or Indian because of their better parenting than Americans.


#435

I’ll take that. Thank you.

. However if we’re going to praise a group’s skill in anything, it implies someone or some people are doing worse in this area. If one is to say Asians are doing great parenting, then it’s given that othere aren’t. But for some odd reason around here and elsewhere the general trend is never to say anything irreverent about a group. I haven’t done that because I know people are very sensitive with that, which surprises me because we’re on a site regarding prowess in some area. @pfury


#436

Yes, there are multiple factors that shape a kid’s behavior. But you need to remember that the parents of these kids were the ones subject to a strict upbringing so the way they behave and conduct themselves alone will influence the kid in a large way. Also, Asians have a different set of values which have obviously been diluted from generation to generation, but may still differ quite a bit from Western values so you cannot simply look at the style in which they are parented. There is a lot of nuance lost when you try to simplify all this into just a style of parenting.

I don’t know many Asians who do this. And I live in Asia lol. I know parents who are relatively strict and push their kids very hard to succeed in school but not to this extent. I would say what you have described is mostly done by more affluent parents within a specific social and business circle. This is what was depicted in the movie Crazy Rich Asians.

Here’s one more thing. The Chinese in China SPOIL the fuck out of their kids because they can only have one kid after the One Child Policy(or maybe it’s two now. I can’t remember). Since Chinese usually live with 3 generations under one roof or at least nearby, the kid gets further spoiled by his/her grandparents, who will yell at their mother for being too strict. Go figure lol.


#437

For me personally it’s about assigning a concept to a race when the race doesn’t play a part. Asians should be praised for being ‘better parents’ if being Asian is a contingent factor.

In the case of parenting, I would fully acknowledge Asian culture produces higher test scores and success factors in life. That’s where the buck stops though. There’s nothing unique to that culture irt parenting that would be exclusive to those of Asian decent.

Furthermore, even me saying ‘asian culture produces better outcomes’ is lazy thinking at best. The reality of the situation is ‘Asian’ is a HUGE umbrella word. Not all Asian cultures operate the same, and hence have different outcomes.

And we regard that prowess for the correct reasons. Unless the prowess we’re regarding is in any way contingent on race, for example, race wouldn’t be a metric that matters.


#438

Just keep comparing everyone and everything to Nazis, it makes you look super intelligent.

“like literally hitler!” I cringed so hard I wanted to bite my tongue.


#439

You do realize that was sarcasm? And you’re probably the only one who didn’t? That makes you look super intelligent (That’s also sarcasm). Stick to mother jokes.


#440

Hey man that shit was only basted in sarcasm. If it’s not dripping and you STILL expect people to catch it you’re like literally Hitler.


#441

Hitler did have a Chaplin moustache to be ironic. He was like literally a hipster.


#442

It matches your demeanor and post history. Hard to decipher. Whatever you say, substitute teach.


#444

Actually, the sarcasm would match my posting; using a Hitler reference literally, would not. But I wouldn’t expect you to have the ability to pick up on the nuances of language (that is not sarcasm). Here’s some advice kid: it’s only the internet but clearly I’m in your head. Maybe you need to address me because you are trying to win (what, I don’t know) but if you notice it’s you always coming to me and never the other way around. The reason is that you don’t have the same relevance to me as I obviously have for you and you should ask yourself why that is. It’s rather pathetic. You’ll never get the reaction out of me that you want. Every time you direct a post to me I have to struggle to remember who you are but you clearly have been keeping notes on me. It’s creepy and you need a life.


#445

Seems to me that part of the reason the suicide rate is so high over there is due to the amount of pressure they put on the kids.


#446

This is definitely true. Nothing against Asian people, for 3 years I went to a high school that was about 1/4 Vietnamese kids and a good portion of Cambodians, sure there were some who were real good students and I know one who became a doctor but a lot of the boys were into drug business and gangs and stuff like that. If you got in a fight with one of them then 10-20 of them would ambush you and beat you when you are alone. They were pretty much the complete opposite of the stereotypical Chinese or Japanese kids.


#447

I doubt it. I don’t think Japanese kids are put under more pressure than other Asian kids.

I’m assuming this was in the 90’s? Thank socialism for that. Lots of Chinese from China would behave in a similar way. Poverty and severe erosion of cultural values. The Chinese you knew at that time were probably from other Asian countries or their parents got out of China before socialism.