[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
And being fat in itself is not dangerous. There are plenty of fatasses that don’t get heart attacks and who live happily.[/quote]
LOL wow. So because people who are fat don’t die of a heart attack, being fat isn’t dangerous? [/quote]
Exactly. The thread title contains the word “necessarily” and that’s exactly what I’m discussing. Not dying from CVD is not dangerous. Any questions?
No one is recommending that people eat everything they see and get the bodyfat percentage of butter. I’m just saying that being fat does not equal being afflicted with CVD.
[quote]Icarus wrote:
Is being of “normal weight” and dying of a heart attack make being that weight dangerous? No. kakno’s point was that just because someone is fat doesn’t automatically sign them up to die from something that people perceive as a “fat person’s death.” There is no absolute that you will die from a heart attack/diabetes/ice cream overdose just because you happen to be flabbier than normal.
There are a lot of dumbasses on this site that think all powerlifters are fat. Perception of fat has to be part of it too.
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Very well said.
[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
just because it doesn’t automatically sign them up to death by ice cream doesn’t mean it isn’t dangerous to be fat. Russian roulette is still dangerous, even if you dont die from it.
If you’re greater than 20% bf, you’re fat. It doesn’t matter if you stuff your face with pizza for the sake of “powerlifting” or if you just do it because you have no self control, if its making you fatter, its not healthy. [/quote]
That’s actually exactly what it means. You can’t know if Achilles will die from CVD, develop diabetes or get hit by lightning just because he is fat. It increases the risk epidemiologically, but in any given case, we are unable to predict exactly what will happen.
And the russian roulette example can be used by me as well. You can’t really tell if Bechilles is going to die if he plays it. It increases the probability, but p<1, and that’s my point. Of course I don’t recommend it, but believing that Achilles will die from CVD and that Bechilles will die from a bullet in the head is a naive and simplified way of looking at the world. Medicine is more complicated than that. We can’t know for certain, that’s the point I’m trying to make.