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Iran Captures British Sailors

Thoughts? Comments? Predictions?

Supposedly the area in which they were taken is in dispute between Iraq and Iran. It’s still quite a statement, though. Maybe they just want to be bombed?

Same thing happened 3 years ago. They released the troops unharmed 3 days later.

So, these Marines were doing UN sanctioned maritime anti-smuggling interdiction work and Iranians decide to capture them. It seems that they were seized by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a powerful, ideological state within a state arm of government in Iran directly controlled by the religious leader Khamenei…just when the political leader Ahmadinejad is going in front of the UN security council.

To remind him(and us) who is really in charge of the country?

Also interesting is the mention of an Iranian/Saudi confrontation over an Iranian submarine near “Saudi city of Jubail, a coastal industrial center that is the site of major Saudi petrochemical and oil installations, as well as the location of the King Abdul Aziz naval base” which the Saudis have played down to avoid acknowledging Iran’s growing (continuing?) belligerence.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1602389,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner

Foriegn Secretary Mrs Beckett said: “We understand that they were in two boats that were operating in Iraqi waters in accordance with the Security Council Resolution 1723 in support of the government of Iraq to stop smuggling.”

Should make the Iranian President’s speech to the UN on Saturday rather interesting.

And, oh look what just popped up on latest news: “Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cancels planned visit to the United Nations. Iran says visas for the crew of his airplane were not issued in time.”

Seems our boy just got his chain yanked by the ayatollah…

[quote]hedo wrote:
Should make the Iranian President’s speech to the UN on Saturday rather interesting.

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How does one explain that one away? You would think they would be trying to get into the international communities good graces. This is not going to bode well for Iran and you can just bet this will be one more data-point used to engage them militarily. Do they think this is a pissing contest? WTF?

Iran is claiming they were in Iranian waters. Should be simple to prove either way.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
hedo wrote:
Should make the Iranian President’s speech to the UN on Saturday rather interesting.

How does one explain that one away? You would think they would be trying to get into the international communities good graces. This is not going to bode well for Iran and you can just bet this will be one more data-point used to engage them militarily. Do they think this is a pissing contest? WTF? [/quote]

All the more reason for the US military to STAY on either side of those crazy bastards.

[quote]Grimnuruk wrote:
Seems our boy just got his chain yanked by the ayatollah…[/quote]

Finally, someone who understands the political system of Iran. So rare…

[quote]engerland66 wrote:

Thoughts? Comments? Predictions?

Supposedly the area in which they were taken is in dispute between Iraq and Iran. It’s still quite a statement, though. Maybe they just want to be bombed?[/quote]

I think it’s a double-dog dare.

Oil prices leap on Gulf incident
Oil prices have risen to their highest level this year after 15 British navy personnel were seized at gunpoint by Iranian forces in the Gulf.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6485529.stm

Why are we not taking these guys out?

[quote]John S. wrote:
Why are we not taking these guys out?[/quote]

“We”?

Sign up, Rambo. They need go-getters like you.

Don’t just stand on the sidelines waving your pom-poms.

[quote]Brad61 wrote:
John S. wrote:
Why are we not taking these guys out?

“We”?

Sign up, Rambo. They need go-getters like you.

Don’t just stand on the sidelines waving your pom-poms.
[/quote]

Bradley,

I’ve noticed that your standard reply to anyones call to military action is usually something along these lines,

Your statements imply that someone must have served, or be actively serving in the military, in order to have an opinion militarily. This is horseshit. Maybe you’ve heard of freedom of speech?

[quote]Brad61 wrote:
John S. wrote:
Why are we not taking these guys out?

“We”?

Sign up, Rambo. They need go-getters like you.

Don’t just stand on the sidelines waving your pom-poms.
[/quote]

Hey fucknut. You’ll be 18 soon. What branch are you signing up for? Or are you going to claim your a veteran…tell us about your trigger time Rambo.

Don’t call out military service until you’ve done some. Grow up.

[quote]hedo wrote:
Or are you going to claim your a veteran…[/quote]

Your: Second possessive pronoun
You’re: Contraction of “You are”

Brad never called for violence against others as far as I know. He approprietely pointed out to put their blood where their mouths are. Don’t be offended and call him names just because he has a different point of view. It’s not doing anyone any good.

[quote]lixy wrote:

Brad never called for violence against others as far as I know. He approprietely pointed out to put their blood where their mouths are. Don’t be offended and call him names just because he has a different point of view. It’s not doing anyone any good.[/quote]

Would this maxim be true also in the case of intervening in Darfur? If you think we should stop a genocide, do you have to sign up?

You know, Darfur - where American foreign policy has somehow compelled Islamists to butcher innocent Africans?

[quote]Brad61 wrote:
John S. wrote:
Why are we not taking these guys out?

“We”?

Sign up, Rambo. They need go-getters like you.

Don’t just stand on the sidelines waving your pom-poms.
[/quote]

Isn’t it ‘Pom-PoNs’? Anyway, what the Iranians did, just like arming the Iraqi terrorists, is called AN ACT OF WAR. The nuke sites and Iran’s military capabilities should now be pretty close to dust as we speak. The fact that those are not really tells us something…

I does?

What?

[quote]lixy wrote:
hedo wrote:
Or are you going to claim your a veteran…

Your: Second possessive pronoun
You’re: Contraction of “You are”

Don’t call out military service until you’ve done some. Grow up.

Brad never called for violence against others as far as I know. He approprietely pointed out to put their blood where their mouths are. Don’t be offended and call him names just because he has a different point of view. It’s not doing anyone any good.[/quote]

Lixy

Piss off. Deflect much?

Why do you think I would let a cyber jihadi define the terms of a discussion?

Lixy = apologist

Is that ok with you and your cell or are you going to issue a fatwa against me?

Since the British were enforcing a UN Resolution what do you think the appropriate response should be…based on your vast politcal and military experience that is?