[quote]AZ CSCS wrote:
firebug9 wrote:
Viking69 wrote:
Oh F%#^ING bulls&t!
If you think for one second that any of the top lifters(PL and OLY)or strongmen are drug free than you are FN’ crazy.
This is the problem with 99% of the failures on this entire website.
People really believe they can lift like so and so, because he is in the IPF(and drug free)or the World Weightlifting Federation champ, or he claims to be a drug free strongman.
Guess what, these elite lifters can handle the amount of volume and weights they can handle because they are jacked almost year round.
Guess what else, you cant handle that workload naturally.
Now I admit they would be stronger than you naturally, because they are gifted, but not with the intensity and volume they train at.
And if you use a lot of drugs it doesnt mean you will ever get close to their level… that is why they are elite.
Lets look at a list.
Ed Coan(greatest PL’r ever and my FN’ hero, BUT…) failed several drug test.
Dimas(greatest Oly lifter at his weight ever and FN’ awesome, BUT…)currently banned from competition.
Mariuz Pudahowthefuckyouspellit(#1 Strongman tody, and incredible, BUT…)failed recent IFSA drug test.
These are the top guys people, get real!
One in 100 million people can actually squat 900lbs without drugs or achieve what these atheletes have acheived, if anyone.
Maybe Brian siders is that one guy who has the potential, and actually found a weight room. You decided.
Now, godd%^#*t, i want to see Jacked baseball players who hit 70+ homeruns, guys squatting 1000+, and 165lb Oly lifters C&Jing 400lbs … but what I dont want to see is Joe Nobody who is drug free thinking he can train like them because they are “drugfree”. Then he fails again and again trying to do a workout he read on “JackedPolishStrongman.org” or “IPF-supervolume-drugfree/ secretlyjacked-guy-workout.com”
Joe Nobody needs to learn to train the drug free way if that is the path he/she choses.
Yes everyone should train drug free.
Coan does not lift anylonger with an IPF affiliated federation.
And just what do you know of the drug testing policies of the IPF or any other powerlifting federation such as the USAPL?
Being a member of the USAPL and having lifted at IPF world meets I can tell you that the USA takes drug testing and use very serious. If I am lucky enought to make a world team then I must have an out of meet test conducted - at my expense. I have no knowledge of when the test will be - they just send someone to my house, job or a meet I might be working at to test me. Kinda hard to cheat wouldn’t you say. The test are observed - no going behind closed doors so you can switch stuff around.
Maybe the elite lifters dont handle high volumes or poundages all the time - ever think of that? Most of the lifters I know cycle their workouts, just like most lifters should.
Maybe before you make accusations you should do your homework first?
Malinda
thats a laugh. i had lifters go to the USAPL national bench meet a few years ago and they watched lifters get their handlers to take the drug test for them. the lifters pulling these kind of stunts were not 3rd and 4th place finishers, but division and best lifter caliber guys. the usapl is no different than any other business or non profit. they want to put on the best show and get the most people to pay attention to them. USAPL and the IPF are far from spotless.[/quote]
Never said that either was spotless - if it were drug testing would not be necessary. No sport is a bastion of honesty. But I do not think that it is a sea of cheaters either. True a lifter might get away with “using” once or twice, but I truely believe that eventually they will be caught - they are lifting on borrowed time. Just my opinion. But I have seen it several times.
Malinda