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Infected Again!


#1

So third time this year with cellulitis from pinning. What gives? Any ideas on the cause? I am religious about cleaning the environment, cleaning myself and equipment. Also gear is from a reputable medium sized UGL.

Is there something I am missing? Is it dose dependent or something? It just seems crazy to me. Any thoughts appreciated.


#2

Are you sure it’s cellulitis and not an allergic reaction?


#3

[quote]KountKoma wrote:
I am religious about cleaning the environment.[/quote]

Maybe that’s the problem. Some people are allergic to Holy Water.

But seriously I have no idea. I’ve never had an infection.


#4

Not an allergic reaction. It is random and is definitely an infection.


#5

[quote]KountKoma wrote:
Not an allergic reaction. It is random and is definitely an infection.[/quote]

what symptoms are you experiencing? I used to get swelling, redness, and heat all the time when the gear would leak out of the muscle into fatty tissue.

do you have a fever?


#6

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]KountKoma wrote:
Not an allergic reaction. It is random and is definitely an infection.[/quote]

what symptoms are you experiencing? I used to get swelling, redness, and heat all the time when the gear would leak out of the muscle into fatty tissue.

do you have a fever?[/quote]

Heavy swelling, very red and warm and it hurts no matter what position I am in. I can’t sit on that cheek. Low grade fever, chills, loss of appetite and just feel shitty. I have been on AB’s for 48 hours now. Slight improvement. At least an improvement even if not much.

I have definitely had my fair share of charlie horse or slightly irritated tissue from a pin. Usually like where the oil spreads to other tissue like you said. This is definitely a different beast.


#7

toss the gear


#8

[quote]Yogi wrote:
toss the gear[/quote]

Damn. I bought 5 bottles. Second pin from the first bottle. Do you think I should waste all five or just the one? Same batch I presume.


#9

it’s your call.

I certainly would toss it


#10

The bottle I used is definitely going in the trash. Worth emailing the lab and let them know?


#11

[quote]KountKoma wrote:
The bottle I used is definitely going in the trash. Worth emailing the lab and let them know?[/quote]

i would.

they might have contaminated equipment, or it might just be a batch or two…


#12

if you used a source board I’d message some of the other users, too.


#13

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Are you sure it’s cellulitis and not an allergic reaction?[/quote]

I am starting to think it is an allergic reaction. Been on AB’s for 3 days and there hasn’t been getting much better. It is better in the morning then as I move around during the day it is crazy localized swelling and redness and pain. My fever remains low when it does pop up. It really does look like a really pissed off area. There is no abcess forming or anything though.

Could I be allergic to the oil or something? Just a couple of random events?


#14

[quote]KountKoma wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Are you sure it’s cellulitis and not an allergic reaction?[/quote]

I am starting to think it is an allergic reaction. Been on AB’s for 3 days and there hasn’t been getting much better. It is better in the morning then as I move around during the day it is crazy localized swelling and redness and pain. My fever remains low when it does pop up. It really does look like a really pissed off area. There is no abcess forming or anything though.

Could I be allergic to the oil or something? Just a couple of random events?[/quote]

you could be allergic… i believe that’s why there’s test cyp and test E… basically the same thing, but in a different oil (cottonseed oil vs sesame oil)

maybe the UGL used a different oil altogether, as well…


#15

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]KountKoma wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Are you sure it’s cellulitis and not an allergic reaction?[/quote]

I am starting to think it is an allergic reaction. Been on AB’s for 3 days and there hasn’t been getting much better. It is better in the morning then as I move around during the day it is crazy localized swelling and redness and pain. My fever remains low when it does pop up. It really does look like a really pissed off area. There is no abcess forming or anything though.

Could I be allergic to the oil or something? Just a couple of random events?[/quote]

you could be allergic… i believe that’s why there’s test cyp and test E… basically the same thing, but in a different oil (cottonseed oil vs sesame oil)

maybe the UGL used a different oil altogether, as well…
[/quote]

I started an RX steroid for inflammation and in less than a day it is helping. Really looks like it could be the oil. Getting more info on the manufacturing.