[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
You know, bottom line is this methinks: whether it is the Indigo-3G, the closer attention to diet (cleaner carbs), or the training program, people are getting results. By results I mean physiques appear to get tighter, performances increase, and the general energy level of the community is higher. This is all a good thing.
Can one focus in on just the clean diet and the training? Absolutely. But how many of those in the Indigo-3G trials really were doing this before? They may have trained hard, but then the diet sucked. Or, they may have eaten right, but they have no concept of how to train. Perhaps the biggest major contribution Indigo-3G added to the equation is the fact that because it is so expensive, it made people focus alot more on doing the right things as to not “waste” their money.
Now, each experience is a very individual one. For me, I can definitely tell a difference when I take Indigo-3G versus when I didn’t. I can definitely tell the difference between only 4 caps/day versus 8 or 12. Indigo-3G definitely gave me a noticeable effect, mostly in the way I felt (energy wise) but also in how much easier it was to get and stay “tighter”. When I was doing the initial trials, I tried hard to keep as many parameters the same as before I even heard of Indigo-3G. And in the process, I discovered for myself the value that Indigo-3G is.
But one thing is clear: Indigo-3G is NOT a magic bullet. I’m afraid the Biotest advertising machine is at work here to promote as much as possible the positives and hyping things. This is so much like the way people hype up steroids to the point where almost EVERYONE thinks of steroids as a real magic bullet. It isn’t. For both, without proper diet and training, you’re simple not going to get there.
Same thing with all the myriad new training “discoveries” or techniques so in vogue on this site. Are they worthless? Absolutely not. But they are not the holy grail of really how to get there. They are simply a possible stepping stone for some, maybe a large boulder for others, but it behooves everyone to experiment with alot of different approaches to really find out what not only works for they physiologically, but also mentally, and what best suits the individuals temperment and schedules. Not all of us have time to train several times a day several times a week. And those who think you HAVE to to achieve physical prowess are plain wrong.
Wow. Did I just write all that? [/quote]
Well said man. There are too many guys like you with years of experience that say it makes a difference for it do be discarded as something thats only working due to diet and training changes imo. I think it’s easy for people not on it to say it’s not worth the price or doesn’t work to justify not paying the high price for it, as well as people that are on it to overhype results to justify making the expense. I am guilty of this. Definitely good progress being made which is most important, whether it’s mostly due the training or the supplement is secondary.
As far as the new training, I agree. I just which it was more accessible to non-Indigo-3G
users to try out.
Edit: I can’t help but be a little suspicious about the programs only being available to Indigo-3G users. Not compaining or anything, just don’t believe that some of these programs can only work if you are on the supplement.