[quote]stevo_ wrote:
[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
[quote]stevo_ wrote:
Ok, let me re phrase because I’m not doubting it works. Let’s say it works fantastically, carbs go where they should. Boom.
From a purely fat loss point of view using some of the more extreme examples in “team 1”, what is the advantage of having someone who is frankly obese, use indigo 3 so they can eat more carbs?
Will they lose more fat than just dieting with less carbs?
Because if not, what’s the point?
Bare in mind ALL I’m talking about is fat loss here, which is what some of these people need. They shouldn’t even be dreaming about muscle at this point.
Serious question as I don’t know the answer.[/quote]
These are very reasonable questions…but allow me to present the situation a different way.
Going low carb in NOT easy. And it is highly debatable whether doing this is healthy for you or not. For some, going low-carb is easy…these are the iron willed people who are willing to sacrifice the satiety that carbs bring for the goal of improved physique look. If one is strong willed enough to do this…and if one likes to suffer a tad when doing this…then Indigo-3G might not be necessary for this person. But not everyone can do this; people’s different physiologies might react poorly or unhealthily to the low carb regimen. I reject all claims by those who say low carb works for everyone…because it doesn’t.
The folks who are “overweight” as you put it probably have tried real hard to adhere to a strict regimented diet and excercise, but for some reason or another, found it difficult to stay on it for a period of time necessary to notice the changes. So if there is something like Indigo-3G which will shuttle the carbs away from fat, then it makes staying on a reasonable diet (which INCLUDES healthy carbs) that much easier. And once they see improvement in their bodies as they adhere to diet and excercise, it psychologically builds on itself…success begets success.
I say those who are “overweight” need this supplement even more. To simply say, “why don’t they just reduce carbs?” is not really addressing the entire situation.
To be quite frank, I hope alot of people who simply want to doubt Indigo-3G for a variety of reasons really don’t try it. Because then there will be more for me to buy. [/quote]
Mate, i think you’re being a little generous with this comment
“The folks who are “overweight” as you put it probably have tried real hard to adhere to a strict regimented diet and excercise”
You don’t get to 350+ pounds and 50+ percent bodyfat by trying hard at ANYTHING…i’m sorry. you don’t
Now, if the answer is that you wont lose fat faster, but you can lose it at the same rate as dropping carbs without as much “pain” ie easier eating, then that’s a TOTALLY acceptable answer to my original question of “whats the advantage” and is a very useful supp.
By the way, for the record, i will be trying it for sure. 100%. As soon as it comes out, if for no other reason than i dont really care about $400 and im interested, im not in anyway doubting it, bashing it, hating on it, or whatever else, the only supps i buy are from Biotest.
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If it fixes insulin sensitivity - that’s an advantage. After 12 weeks use, I want to see someone continue to eat 250-350g carbs a day ( including peri workout ) and see what happens. Do they start to add fat back on instantly, or does their body continue to use the carbs properly. That’s going to be the real advantage.
Right now I can say that Indigo-3G ( even on low carbs ) has my body changing faster than it ever has before. Granted I’m a total newb to training at this point, 6 years ago I started and wasn’t making the progress I’ve made in 5 weeks on Indigo-3G and I wasn’t fat then. There could be plenty of other factors at play right now, but guess what- I’m taking Indigo-3G and the 2 months prior to Indigo-3G the gains weren’t so apparent.