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Indecent Exposure?

And, for once, it’s got nothing to do with the hijab or niqab.

“Delcambre [Louisiana] town council unanimously passed the ordinance earlier this week making it a crime to wear trousers that show underwear.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6751777.stm

I was pretty shocked to see that this happened in the US. Where do you stand on this? Is it OK for such restrictions to be passed into law? Or is it a good lesson for those punks?

It is meaningless and it will never stand up.

It’s stupid and pointless, but since I don’t live there I don’t really have any say in the matter. Small government model means just that. Let these people deal with their own local ordinances. If I happen to move to the area, I will make sure my underwear isn’t showing.

[quote]MrRezister wrote:
If I happen to move to the area, I will make sure my underwear isn’t showing.[/quote]

Well, it sure would be a stain on the “land of the free”.

I don’t like your reasoning. It’s an open door to all sorts of abuse.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/120504.html

[quote]lixy wrote:
I was pretty shocked to see that this happened in the US. Where do you stand on this? Is it OK for such restrictions to be passed into law? Or is it a good lesson for those punks?
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It’s really not the business of anyone outside of that local.

On a side note: how are they going to know who the douchebags are if they can’t see their underwear?

[quote]orion wrote:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/120504.html [/quote]

I don’t see the relevance of that, but I’ll be grateful if you could tell me how on Earth did they get arrested in the first place. How did the judge know there were pictures to start with if they didn’t make them public?

I’m really confused.

[quote]lixy wrote:

I don’t like your reasoning. It’s an open door to all sorts of abuse.[/quote]

That’s fine. I’ll expound. Wether or not a person’s underwear is visible in public has no bearing whatsoever on anyone outside of the township.

There is no “logical extreme” or “slippery slope”. The locals don’t like seeing punks walking around with their pants hanging to their knees. End of story.

You might argue that this ruling is just a few steps removed from making it law that all women must cover their entire bodies or something similar, right? But if that happens and the public disagrees, then there is revolt and the process corrects itself. If everyone in Louisiana wanted their women covered up like good muslims, then the people who agree with the policy will stay and obey. Those who disagree have the options of civil disobedience, petitioning for change, and/or mass exodus.

I received a notice in the mail that my lawn needs to be mowed as prescribed in my Rental Agreement. Are my civil liberties at stake? Nope. I don’t see much difference here.

If the town isn’t fit to decide the issue, who is? The State? The Feds? The Church?

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[quote]lixy wrote:
MrRezister wrote:
If I happen to move to the area, I will make sure my underwear isn’t showing.

Well, it sure would be a stain on the “land of the free”.[/quote]

You can do what you want in the privacy of your own home. In public, you have to balance your freedom or parading your underwear around vs. the freedom of others to not have your shit-stained Fruit of the Looms thrust in their face.

I’m exaggerating a bit, but there are already a boatload of rules for public life. No littering, no spitting, no urinating, no fornicating, no smoking inside, etc.

In a perfect world, a proper sense of decency and a little dignity from everyone would obviate the need for those, but a lot of people are apparently no match for their animal instincts, so we pass laws to make sure we stand out from the rest of the animal kingdom, were the aliens ever to stop by and offer a ride to the “master specie.”

Personally, unless you’re female and built like Keyra Augustina, I don’t care to see your underwear.

[quote]lixy wrote:
And, for once, it’s got nothing to do with the hijab or niqab.

“Delcambre [Louisiana] town council unanimously passed the ordinance earlier this week making it a crime to wear trousers that show underwear.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6751777.stm

I was pretty shocked to see that this happened in the US. Where do you stand on this? Is it OK for such restrictions to be passed into law? Or is it a good lesson for those punks?[/quote]

Louisiana is the closes thing to a banana republic that United States has. The only thing that ever happened there that couldn’t be address by money changing hands is hurricane Katrina. Corruption isn’t just a way of life it is a slogan.

This attempt at a law will die soon. Somebody is just trying to draw attention to themselves.

Read some more into the thread started on Get a Life:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1609677&pageNo=0

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