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Incresing Height & 4-Hydroxytest

I found this on the forum of another site:
“Take Formasin by Prototype Nutrition or Formastat by Molecular Nutrition and your final height would be greater than it otherwise would be because Estrogen would be inhibited. Being taller as a
side effect is intriguing.”

The supplements mentioned both contain a suicide aromatase inhibitor formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione) with a serving size of 50mg and a recommendation of 1-5 servings a day.

Is there any truth to this?

There are plenty of lifters who have been using AIs for years, and I’m certain most of them couldn’t say they grew much past their genetic predisposition. It might be true, though. Who knows.

Anyone else?

‘It COULD do this blah blah’ really if there are no concrete facts it just looks like marketing schemes.

Given the outrageous claims regularly made by supplement companies, I would be skeptical. It certainly sounds like a stretch to me, and an obvious marketing strategy designed to play on the insecurities of shorter guys.

Much like all the penis enlargement creams, pumps, etc. If you’re packing a cocktail frank, you will really want to believe they’ll work, maybe enough to drop the $$ and take a chance.

Same goes if you’re 5’3" and are tired of women staring over your head to glance at the 6’2" guy behind you.

I wouldn’t hold high hopes for the claims being made here. Like Cntrl said, there may be some truth to it, none of us here could disclaim it outright with certainty, but if it follows suit with other claims being made, you’ll likely be disappointed.

To end on a positive note, there are plenty of hot women out there under 5’3"…

i agree. No such thing. However, If you really want to grow a couple inches of height there is a way;a painful way. It is called ilizarov. A surgery procedure to break your tibia and fibula in the middle ans stretch it everyday(I had experience it and it is freakin hell). A link below information about ilizarov

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Growth continues until estrogen levels increase, causing the growth plates to close. Then it is all over. This is why women are shorter than men. I just read something about this, again, and there were two cases of abnormally tall stature, one where there was a mutation in aromatase that made it ineffective and another where the was an estrogen receptor defect. Very much locking in the E connection.

There has been medical research discussion of AIs been used to allow for greater stature in males. Severely depressing E in females might have some unexpected serious consequences.

I think that this would work. But when the growth plates close, nothing can be done to allow bone growth after that. By the time that many would be concerned that they were not going to have normal height, it would be too late and what kids would have any knowledge of any of this?

This “suicide aromatase inhibitor” is crap. If not on gear, .5mg of anastrozole per week might be all that is required. Do the math.

Many of these ‘alternative’ AIs are not absorbed very well at all and for some, effectively not at all. The research that “support” claims of effectiveness are often in vitro or IV delivery to study the mode of action. Unfortunately, these sweep the issue of absorption under the rug. The research is often of academic interest and was not intended to determine effectiveness or dosing. But often an industry springs up that takes such data as a marketing tool for things that really do not work well or at all. Even LEF.org is guilty of that!

I had a TRT guy that I gave advice to, go off and get that stuff instead of the anastrozole I recommended earlier… the claims for the “suicide aromatase inhibitor” were too sexy for him to ignore. He later PM’d me stating that the product was expensive to use and that his labs showed little or no E2 changes. We got that fixed. A lesson hard learned by one guy - take note. Many ‘alternatives’ do not work well and cost more than the real thing. Availability is an other issue.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Depends how old you are, i.e. if your growth plates on your long bones have closed or not.

Reducing the amount of estrogen in your body, all the way through puberty and beyond, might not be a good thing, but it sure should make you taller.

COnsider the opposite scenario: Obese pubescent boys sometimes grow less, since they posses far more adipose tissue (where aromatisation of T into E occurs) than optimum. Therefore as soon as their gonads start putting out T, a lot of it gets converted to E, and this signals the premature closure of the physis.

Short fat people will inherit the earth!

Bushy[/quote]

And some young guys who mature fast, are strong and hairy can end up short from their high T levels converting to E. Their hormones came too strong and early, out pacing their bone growth. It is sort of like a race. Tortoise vs Hare… Slow and steady wins the race.

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[quote]bodyfort wrote:
i agree. No such thing. However, If you really want to grow a couple inches of height there is a way;a painful way. It is called ilizarov. A surgery procedure to break your tibia and fibula in the middle ans stretch it everyday(I had experience it and it is freakin hell). A link below information about ilizarov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilizarov_apparatus [/quote]

shit how much would you even grow from suffering this?

at least 10,000 usd. If you are short and fully matured, this is the only choice to make.

Great info. KSman