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Immune System Strengthening


#1

Dear T-men
My best friends father has a muscle wasting illness and I recommended L-glutamine in high doses I just don't know how much and what protocol? Any thoughts?
I suggested things to boost his immune system (i.e. Vit C, L-glutamine, Zn/Mg) Any Suggestions? Money is no issue this man has all his senses but is dying. Please any natural supplementation recommendations you know of will help.
I really respect all your advice and one last thing I live-in Australia so only legal supplements are possible.
Thanks in advance
Sincerely
Topkat


#2

What kind of muscle wasting illness does your best friends father have? Often muscle wasting can be caused by something related to the inability to eat enough and/or get enough nutrition...stomach problems for example. So if this is it would be difficult to make supplement recommendations.


#3

DHEA is pretty important for immune function, and low levels are associated with many ailments. Might pay to get his levels checked. If they need boosting he will need a 'permit' from the from the dictocrats at TGA to import DHEA. However you can order 7-keto DHEA, a non-androgenic metabolite of DHEA, with no problems. smart-drugs.net are a reliable source.
Other things that might be worthy of consideration- plentiful intake of good fats, grass-fed meat, whey/casein protein powder, high levels of B-complex, Noni juice.
If money is no issue then I would recommend Life Extension Mix (fantastic multi-vitamin/mineral/herbal supplement) and large doses of arginine (best ordered from Life Extension Foundation or Jomar labs - much cheaper than buying locally) at bedtime. Best of luck.


#4

All your ideas are good. However the best thing would be to find a nutritionally oriented physician (MD, ND...) in your area who can work with him personally. If you are really stuck with no access to such a person, please provide more information i.e. what wasting disease?


#5

If I was dying, I wouldn't care if it was legal or not, especially if money is no object. Get him some 'roids, quick. If you can find it, years ago Muscle Media had a series of articles about a doctor who had AIDS and was trying different steroid protocols to prevent (or slow) muscle wasting. He also drank around six Met-RX shakes a day (Met-RX was originally designed for wasting patients).


#6

topkat, you might want to try e-mailing the Life Extension Foundation. They may keep a record of doctors (I know they used to about 5 yrs ago) of doctors (including aussie docs) that practice anti-aging therapies. If roids or HGH was going to help your friend's Dad these would be the most likely doctors to help. If you could find a doctor with a clue (pretty hard, I know) that would be the go, its kind of hard to give advice for something serious like this over the net.
I agree with the info about met-rx, easily absorbed sources of protein would be beneficial. Soup broth made with bones is a terrific source of gelatin, which is really good for the stomach, if that is a concern. A good article on this:
http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/broth.html


#7

Coral Calcium, Coral Calcium , Coral Calcium!


#8

5ad in the range of 1g a day will likely cause gyno, but also is an extremely potent immuno booster.


#9

I was having a tough time with colds and flu coming back time after time so my doctor told me to take: 2g of vitamin C, at least 50mg of Zinc, two "mega B" vitamins and a good multi-vitamin spread throughout the day. It's been three years and I've only been "sick" twice. I recommend this to everyone I know. Hope this helps.


#10

check out Thymic Protein A at vrp.com (Vitamin Research Products), and Reishi mushrooms; proven to be powerful immune boosters


#11

Wobenzyme says its an immune system booster could try that.