[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
[quote]AsaAkira13 wrote:
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
[quote]AsaAkira13 wrote:
This is allw ell and good, but ity is pure conjecture, you have provided no scientific data to prove this theory of real food being bettert than supplementing to hit micronutrients.
I am not attacking clean eating. I am not looking for arguements, I was merely hoping proponents of clean eating could provide me some peer reviewed studes, concrete data or anything that overwhelmingly states in clear fact that vitamin and fiber supplements are less effective than eating lots of fruit and or vegetables.
Anything without evidence is not an answer I am looking for.
I myself can find no evidence that clearly proves vitamins from food is superior, more absorbance or gives you any other noticeable benefits.
If you eat a high fat snack with your vitamins the absorption rate is optimal and not an issue.
Anyone who can prove micro nutrients from food are better than those from supplements, please post some evidence.
By the way guys, thanks for the answers, I appreciate the interest but I am only after scientific data, not personal anecdotes.
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Did you see the study I posted about Rye Bread vs Wheat Bread?[/quote]
Yes but it was irrelevant, If I supplement with vitamins and mineral and fiber, I don’t need them from my wheat or rye bread.[/quote]
My posts were not irrelevant. What multi has k2 in it? I’m trying to point out that the result of your hypothetical (“what would happen if someone consumed all their carbs from say white bread, candy and pop, got their fat from butter and protein from say a whey protein … supplemented with around 30g fiber powder a day, took mutli vitamins, fish oil and b12”) is far removed from optimal, and would result in dysfunction if followed for any length of time.
First and most clearly B12 is in practically every multi-vitamin i’ve ever come across. Secondly fish oil is not the only essential fatty acid not found in butter. Further, most multis are garbage with synthetic vitamins, and further they lack phytonutrient synergisms in whole foods, which is also a downside of your hypotheical. Also, you said “fiber.” I posted a study showing significant differences in post prandial blood sugar levels from bread with otherwise exactly the same macros and fiber content.
How are these things irrelevant? You’re being stubborn. My point is that this is much more complex than you could possibly imagine. Should I amend my previous post to simply state “this is much more complex than you could possibly imagine” and leave the science out?[/quote]
I was not trying to be rude dude, but what you have linked and have just said are really not scientifically quantified by yourself or those links.
Also if you are willing to pay you can get multivitamins that have everything in them, are tested by independent third party labs and are checked by independent labs for impurities.
As for the whole phytonutrient synergisms, you have not provided any studies showing this to be as important as you claim, this is the thing I am getting at, All I am after is a scientific study showing supplements for micronutrioents is less effective than those taken in from natural foods.
By the way, are you Marc lobliner?