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Mr.Walkway has said: i haven’t attributed any of my strength increase to insulin use… but it will help you put on size, depending on how you use it, which will cause increases in strength… and it will help you recover from your workouts more quickly.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/insulin_use?pageNo=0#5766161

Unfortunately most of these supplemental peptides have a lot of hype tied to them that make them hard to resist. Many are supposed to mimic hgh and insulin but rarely come close to the real deal. What else is new in the world.

I have heard good things about the peptide Melanotan II here on T-Nation. Gives tan and side effect of getting a boner.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/melanotan_ii_3

Back to insulin…

Insulin, a peptide hormone can be gotten over the counter, WalMart had cheapest at around $25. If you are going to use insulin to shuttle nutrients and protein upon waking in the morning and right before a workout YOU HAVE TO DO THE HOMEWORK OR RISK COMA AND DEATH.

Having said that if you are smart enough to understand what all can happen it isn’t as dangerous as it sounds. BUT things can go wrong.

Insulin causes cells in the liver, skeletal muscles, and fat tissue to absorb glucose from the blood. In the liver and skeletal muscles, glucose is stored as glycogen, and in fat cells (adipocytes) it is stored as triglycerides.

You can get very fat. My father in law is obese because insulin is going to shuttle whatever shit he throws down the hatch into his cells. Let me repeat insulin targets the fat, liver, and muscle cells when it is released.

You have to be strict on how many carbs you ingest because you can either under eat and go into a coma or over eat and become obese. Research tells us that insulin is actually increased when you lower your weight or body fat percentage. It’s also important to note that insulin gets stronger the more you work out. The catabolic effect of exercise increases insulin during a work out and for about 30-45 minutes post workout.

This means as a healthy exercising individual you simply can’t eat the same amount of carbohydrate food that you did before and expect to keep getting better results.

I found this for what it’s worth:

This post is just a simple guide for first time insulin users to follow in a safe, and effective manner.

I urge you to invest in a glucometer. This will give you a close estimation of where your BG(Blood Glucose) levels are (Safe Zone 70-90,but independent upon each individual).You want to take in adequate amounts of carbs, but not too much. As the excess will be stored as fat. And yes, if you aren’t careful, you can add quite a bit of excess body fat. As you’ll see in my dosing example below, we drop carbs slightly as to not to acquire excess BF.

As you already might know. The basic rule is 10g Dextrose to 1 iu of Insulin. Now the trick is to get in tune with your body so to take advantage of the insulin spike, which allows nutrients to be shuttled to the muscle cells rapidly, doing so without taking in excess carbs which equates to body fat.

Below is a 30 day cycle(which is recommended) for Insulin. I don’t use Insulin on off days from the gym. Some like to use Insulin on off days in the morning to fight off the catabolic state we’re in upon awakening. I feel upon awakening in the morning a shake consisting of Whey/Dextrose would be sufficient in bringing you out of this catabolic state from fasting over an 8 hour period while sleeping. Remember, you can become Insulin insensitive if abused. So by running insulin on training days only reduces that threat.

I’ll use the 5 day training split as an example here. That will give you 20 days on insulin.

Day 1 : 5 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Day 2 : 5 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Day 3 : 5 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Congratulations!! You’ve survived thus far. I assume(hope) you’ve been monitoring your BG levels. You probably have noticed that you are in the higher range using 50g of dextrose PWO. Now it’s time to drop the carbs slightly. Don’t fret. This should be more than ample amounts(of carbs) to get you through to your PPWO meal.

Day 4 : 5 iu insulin/40g Dextrose

Day 5 : 5 iu insulin/40g Dextrose

At this point you should have a good idea of how you react with Insulin in terms of BG levels vs. carb intake .

Lets up the dose

Day 6 : 6 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Day 7 : 6 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

By this point in time you should be feeling good(ie;more confident),but still respectful to Insulin. Let’s test the waters for 3 days to give you the feel of things. By that I mean we’ll drop the carb intake slightly so you can find a comfortable ratio in regards to iu’s vs. carbs per gram.

Day 8 : 6 iu insulin/40g Dextrose

Day 9 : 6 iu insulin/40g Dextrose

Day 10 : 6 iu insulin/40g Dextrose

Now, the above ratios are safe and effective. You can stop right here and continue on for the next 10 days at the above doses/ratios. Or you can move forward slightly.

Day 11 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Day 12 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Day 13 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Day 14 : 7 iu insulin/50g Dextrose

Day 15 : & iu insulin/50g Dextrose

If you felt confident with the above protocol.You could experiment on days 14-15 and drop your dextrose to 40g.If you do so, please monitor your BG levels every 15 minutes or so. And have glucose tabs, or another source of quick carbs handy (like orange juice) to stave off any possible signs of hypoglycemia. Don’t panic should this happen,just drink a glass of orange juice, or similar, and in 10 minutes the symptoms will have subsided.

Ok, on to your final week.

Day 16 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose

Day 17 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose

Day 18 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose

Day 19 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose

Day 20 : 8 iu insulin/60g Dextrose

Congratulations! You just completed your first cycle/experience with Insulin in a safe an effective manner. I stopped at 8 iu’s, Being that is enough to get your feet wet with the drug. You can experiment later on. This was simply a guide.

Don’t use for more than four weeks at a time. Four weeks on four weeks off.

Mr.Walkway stated:

the necessary things for his protcol besides the slin and EAAs imo are:

-beta alanine
-glutamine (itll help keep you out of hypo)
-leucine (itll be in the EAAs so no worries)
-glycerol monosterate (helps a lot with pumps = drawing blood and therefore nutrients into your muscles)
-creatine mono
-potassium (insulin can fuck you up if ur not getting ur potassium)
-taurine (helps BP and avoiding cramps)

i also put some sea salt in my shakes

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/insulin_w_intermittent_fasting?pageNo=1#5568750

whenever i felt hypo during my workouts (very rare) id pop a dextrose pill

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/insulin_w_intermittent_fasting?pageNo=1#5568750

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