OTH, thanks for the response, a lot of it resonated with me. My wife accuses me of having a girlfriend because I have abs, but I explain that I have no time for a girlfriend when I am in the gym so often. And, she doesn't like me at 185 because I am skinnier than she and she thinks it makes her look fat.
I get the mass thing, but am more inclined to be lean. I was at a friend's house last Summer and in his pool. When I got out he started laughing and I asked why and he said, "Dude, you are fucking ripped."
Of course, I am not ripped, but the response was welcomed. I do want to add width, like ED talks about, but also want to get to 10 percent, just my gig, not judging.
Thanks for your take. My adipophobia stems from having been a fat bastard in a previous life and not wanting to go down that road again. It also informs my insane desire to get to ten percent. I lost a shitload of weight in college by extreme caloric deficit and think I fucked up my hormones then, now I am paying for it, on TRT and fighting for every ounce of LBM.
Live and learn.