Are you saying turinabol is not that effective??!?!
To be fair there is a lot of parroting online and a lot of guys think if a compound doesn’t pack on lbs and lbs of wet weight then it can’t be effective. This is not a fair measure.
Then on the other side of that coin for compounds that are best suited for conditioning ,guys think if the compound doesn’t cut them up then it is not a good compound, not true.
Then there are the compounds that are best suited to definition and one of the best fat burners out there is nandrolone but it isn’t not known as a fat burner because you end your cycle in a wet state and then by the time you shed the water most guys are being lazy in the gym and all the “pop” is gone. Seriously go look at some cut stacks from a decade ago and they included Nandrolone Phenylpropionate or NPP. Its a great fat burner then you got the added nitrogen retention to have a very nice compliment of visible full popping muscle heads.
Turinabol is a very good compound for lean quality mass. That is the key right there LEAN and QUALITY. Yes you will not move the scale 20 lbs with turinabol but the 5 or so you do move it, well that is going to stay with you at a higher percentage vs what prevent of mass you get to keep from dbol. Now when you compare lean mass to lean mass from turinabol vs dbol then they are going to actually be kneck and kneck. For the record you will get more weight from dbol but it will be fatty weight and after you subtract the fat then that is when turinabol and dbol will be very close in results.
The east germans used turinabol for decades in their olympic program for a reason. You can say it was just because the testing didn’t detect it but there were plenty of other compounds back then that didn’t show on the tests, and they chose to stay with turinabol.
Now if your saying clostebol is not very effective. (I am a bit finicky with how English can be interpreted, I have spent three years having to very carefully pick my words because my gf speaks English as a second language so there is lots of 'i didn’t realize you meant that" so me answering to both is just a side effect of dealing with her, please don’t read anything more into it) (and I am pretty sure you are saying clostebol isn’t that strong/effective) Then again we have to look at what are clostebol’s strengths. It is a dry compound so yeah it won’t pack on weight but MMA fighters keep getting caught using it. You could say that is because of its detection time, they are wanting something and it is the only thing with that short of a detection time but masteron propionate is going to be kneck and kneck. Masteron is good for strength and aggression. We do see them get caught with masteron as well. But there has to be a reason for the clostebol. I think it is because it is one of those “conditioning” compounds kind of like how EQ will help you improve endurance. We in the bodybuilding world tend to think in terms of gaining or cutting but that third conditioning is very important for the whole “performance enhancing” part of PED. Clostebol is also known for a strength increase. So you get strength and better endurance without moving up a weight class.
Now for anything else yeah clostebol is probably pretty limited. However if you stacked it with something else then that strength increase could come in handy for a weightlifter. After all how many times can we use anavar to bust through a strength plateau before we start getting diminishing returns? Clostebol could be a nice option.
I myself got a head of myself on my AAS journey and ended up trying the all common compounds before I should have. That first time on any given compound usually will be the best return mg for mg. So in the past couple of years I have been looking for “new” (really just different for me) compounds. I have some clostebol and will be rotating it in before too long. I am not expecting anything greatly significant but that added conditioning/endurance should help burn some extra fat while preserving lean mass.
And yes clostebol isn’t really a new compound but it has been getting new exposure as of late. We can thank our friends in China all scrambling to offer us something unique that the others don’t. I am still hoping for oxabolone and actual stenbolone to be available. I read something on oxabolone from someone back in the 80s I think, sounded like something I would like to check out.