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I am in Hell Right Now!


#1

Hello,
I am 25 years old male from India.
Past: from 2009-2014
1. I had high libido, very good and dense hair on scalp, no sexual problems whatsoever.
2. Very good cognitive brain function, maths topper in my colege days and very good memory, academically very strong
3. But for the whole time I was on SSRIs also, going on and off because I had Pure OCD

Period 2014-17 till today:
In December of 2013, I went off Prozac 20mg and after one month I took some height increasing supplement from India and also ordered Growthflexvpro from Canada
Took these for approximately 15 days straight. Overdosed on Growthflexvpro package which was nothing but L arginine and L orthinine 500mg and 250mg capsules respectively. Like 10 capsules per day whereas it was recommended only one or two capsules per day

Immediately after completing that package , even while on them I started suffering from extreme brain fog, no emotions, completely numbness in brain and genitals, erection problems, ejaculation not going with full force just dribbling out. Most of all, I lost my imagination power, like how we imagine things while seeing a girl, the feel of her body parts, all that. I lost a major chunk of front hair just days after this. And now I can easily be put into Androgenic Alopecia case.

Plus now even simple math calculations cannot be performed by me. Severe memory impairment. It is like my total personality has chnaged I thought this would eventually go away and therefore I waited for four months till October 2014. But then got frustrated and thought naively that maybe SSRIs would cure the imbalance (I was strictly thinking in terms of neurosymptoms that time, these may have been hormonal problem did not even cross my mind) and then I started taking antidepressants again.

This continued till this year April 2017 when finally I got my blood get tested.
And to the horror of mine, my testosterone came 163 ng/dl, then again I tested at 106ng/dl. (Full blood reports attached)

I was so happy that maybe only testosterone is the problem and then, I started taking Testosterone shots, 160mg per week for nearly a month but to my despair I found that apart from erections, it didn't solve my vast mental symptoms. I could not even feel anything so that this increased testosterone could work properly.

By searching the net for similar symptoms, the side effects I am suffering are very much similar to those experienced by Propecia (I have never used any other drug other than SSRI). Both the sexual and mental symptoms likewise, especially the mental ones.

Can anybody tell me what's going on? I tried Testoviron as mentioned above for one month but nothing great happened.
Please check my blood reports and advise if possible as I am really struggling now.


#2

First off, as an adult your bones are fused. Nothing will increase your height. As a short 5'7" myself, I wish there were but it's not happening. Second, I've never heard of an amino acid overdose but I would defer to others. Your T is extremely low and you may be primary or secondary. Somebody else may have insight as your FSH and LH are low but not nonexistent. I'm surprised T therapy didn't help. What was your full blood work profile like on T?


#3

Never did any bloodwork on T Therapy. And I only took that for one month, should I have given it more time?


#4

Absolutely. It can take 4-6 weeks to feel the changes. For me it was about 4.


#5

Please read these stickies found here carefully: https://forums.t-nation.com/t/about-the-t-replacement-category/38/2?u=ksman

  • advice for new guys
  • things that damage your hormones
  • protocol for injections
  • finding a TRT doc - may not apply there

fT4 is well below midrange
TSH should be closer to 1.0
Have you always used iodized salt?
Iodine deficiency is a problem in India.
https://www.google.com/search?q=iodine+deficiency+in+india

Do you drink water from wells that have arsenic contamination from sediments?
Common problem in many areas. https://www.google.com/search?q=iodine+deficiency+in+india

Labs:
TT
FT <---
E2 <---
LH/FSH
prolactin
fT3 - free T3, the active thyroid hormone, please not T3 <--

This is so bogus: Growthflexvpro

Bone growth stops when estradiol levels get to a certain level. That is why most women are shorter. In males, T levels increase and then more T-->E2 stops bone growth. Males who grow fast and early with lots of testosterone will be shorter. Some guys are short, very strong and hairy as a extreme example. Guys who are very tall are often not very strong and have slight facial hair. Once bones stop growing, that cannot start again. So things need to be done when guys are quite young and manipulation of T, E2 and growth hormone is not something that doctors are going to do. With juvenile growth hormone deficiency, the problem is clear cut and obvious.

Some males just have their sex hormones go wrong around 19-22 years of age.

Any blows to the head prior to this? Can damage the pituitary.


#6

E2 21.61 pg/ml
Free Testsoterone 9.00 Range 9.1-32.2 pg/ml
Yes, I take iodized salt only.
Can you tell me what does this Free t4 value suggest? Because I have done a couple of other
testing also and my Freet t4 has come down on the bottom of the range.
No blows to the injury I can think of. My symptoms started onlyafter I took those supplements. God knows what was in them.


#7

T4+TBG is inactive
free T4 is active and able to fT4-->fT3

T4 looks good at mid-range, fT4 does not.

Please check oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky to evaluate your overall thyroid function. fT3 is used to regulate energy levels as part of the body temperature control.