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I <3 Antoine Vaillant


#201

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Photos from Toronto? [/quote]

yes the prejudging photos are up


#202

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#203

i don’t know if it’s just me or does he not look very crisp?


#204

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
God was AV soft at the Toronto super show. I guess it was to be expected based on the NYP but i think he looked even worse. From the back you’d swear he was 4 weeks out…

He actually looked much better at 2 days out than he did on stage.

Sounds like most people agree that it was just too much traveling during his prep, and i agree. I think he knows it too. Everyone talked about how much potential he has, just needs to put it all together now. [/quote]

This dude at the gym was saying people were calling for JM’s head with how soft AV looked. Wonder if there is any truth to that? Hopefully AV stays with JM and doesn’t put too much blame on him.


#205

[quote]Mr_Freshnuts wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
God was AV soft at the Toronto super show. I guess it was to be expected based on the NYP but i think he looked even worse. From the back you’d swear he was 4 weeks out…

He actually looked much better at 2 days out than he did on stage.

Sounds like most people agree that it was just too much traveling during his prep, and i agree. I think he knows it too. Everyone talked about how much potential he has, just needs to put it all together now. [/quote]

This dude at the gym was saying people were calling for JM’s head with how soft AV looked. Wonder if there is any truth to that? Hopefully AV stays with JM and doesn’t put too much blame on him.[/quote]

Well, its hard to say, but you gotta wonder what JM’s take is on this. All i can say is Antoine has been in incredible condition in the past, and this was embarrassing to say the least. Whats the difference?


#206

[quote]gato10 wrote:
i don’t know if it’s just me or does he not look very crisp?[/quote]

Um…maybe if you squint your eyes a bit…

jk he looked terrible.


#207

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Mr_Freshnuts wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
God was AV soft at the Toronto super show. I guess it was to be expected based on the NYP but i think he looked even worse. From the back you’d swear he was 4 weeks out…

He actually looked much better at 2 days out than he did on stage.

Sounds like most people agree that it was just too much traveling during his prep, and i agree. I think he knows it too. Everyone talked about how much potential he has, just needs to put it all together now. [/quote]

This dude at the gym was saying people were calling for JM’s head with how soft AV looked. Wonder if there is any truth to that? Hopefully AV stays with JM and doesn’t put too much blame on him.[/quote]

Well, its hard to say, but you gotta wonder what JM’s take is on this. All i can say is Antoine has been in incredible condition in the past, and this was embarrassing to say the least. Whats the difference? [/quote]

“Those who know me know I don’t do crazy carb depletions, carb ups or much in the way at all of diuretics if any…so you can toss those theories out. I have alot of thoughts on this but all that matters is that AV move forward and get better. That’s all that counts. He will get better…someday everybody will forget all about this show…”

“haha…yea we found out some things that didn;t work but they were not nutritionally or training related…haha…someday we will write a book…”


#208

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
lol…[/quote]
lolwtf


#209

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
All i can say is Antoine has been in incredible condition in the past, and this was embarrassing to say the least. Whats the difference? [/quote]

No he has not been… ever… 100% srs


#210

Like many of you, I am disappointed in Antoine’s showing. I’m still eagerly anticipating his video uploads though with regards to his experiences leading up to the Toronto Pro. Like many have indicated, Antoine’s personality is a huge breath of fresh air in bodybuilding.

I really like this Clarence DeVis dude. In the comparison pics posted online, I keep getting drawn to his muscle fullness and development.


#211

[quote]bcingu wrote:

“haha…yea we found out some things that didn;t work but they were not nutritionally or training related…haha…someday we will write a book…”[/quote]

that’s what JM said about the NY pro…

idk ive seen his other athletes and they looked amazing


#212

Holy water-holding christ!


#213

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
All i can say is Antoine has been in incredible condition in the past, and this was embarrassing to say the least. Whats the difference? [/quote]

No he has not been… ever… 100% srs[/quote]

It’s not as good as what the top guys brought to the NYP, but it is undeniably night-and-day better than what we just saw from him.


#214

AV’s pic just looks like he is doing some guest posing…wild.


#215

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]bcingu wrote:

“haha…yea we found out some things that didn;t work but they were not nutritionally or training related…haha…someday we will write a book…”[/quote]

that’s what JM said about the NY pro…

idk ive seen his other athletes and they looked amazing[/quote]

Still relevant, I reckon. Intriguing, if nothing else.


#216

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
All i can say is Antoine has been in incredible condition in the past, and this was embarrassing to say the least. Whats the difference? [/quote]

No he has not been… ever… 100% srs[/quote]

It’s not as good as what the top guys brought to the NYP, but it is undeniably night-and-day better than what we just saw from him. [/quote]

Oh dont get me wrong he’s been looking better than at TO and NY in the past for sure. But imo he’s NEVER been able to really nail his condition and/or be full enough (his condition looked good at the arnold amateur but looked flat as hell)


#217

Just looked at the pre judging pics… Looks like he made 3rd call out and looks like he could place last tbh. The one dude next to him reminds me of TC with his blonde hair lol


#218

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
All i can say is Antoine has been in incredible condition in the past, and this was embarrassing to say the least. Whats the difference? [/quote]

No he has not been… ever… 100% srs[/quote]

It’s not as good as what the top guys brought to the NYP, but it is undeniably night-and-day better than what we just saw from him. [/quote]

Oh dont get me wrong he’s been looking better than at TO and NY in the past for sure. But imo he’s NEVER been able to really nail his condition and/or be full enough (his condition looked good at the arnold amateur but looked flat as hell)[/quote]

The word “incredible” was probably a little strong. I meant it more relative to his conditioning over the past week, rather than everyone else’s. I definitely agree that he has yet to master the conditioning. Even when he does a better job drying out he still never maintains his fullness come contest night.

He’s one of those guys that looks awesome 3 weeks out and then like shit come contest night. He would have literally looked better on stage 4 weeks ago than he does now.


#219

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]gato10 wrote:
i don’t know if it’s just me or does he not look very crisp?[/quote]

Um…maybe if you squint your eyes a bit…

jk he looked terrible. [/quote]

haha, yea i know i didn’t wanna jump all over how shitty he looked, cause i was kinda in disbelief.


#220

I just wanna say, thanks for making this thread. I had never heard of AV until this.
I have been watching his videos and now can’t wait for the next!
I love the fact he uploads vids a lot. He is a lot more interactive than a lot of pro’s.
He also has some damn funny jokes and vids.
It’s a shame about NYP. Hope he goes far!