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Hysterical Rolling Stones on Palin and Political Landscape

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
So the writer is a madman for speaking out which is obvious?

Yes, your would be empress is butt naked. So shamelessly incompetent-naked that her interviews and the debate was pure stupidity porn.
And as to the second point, the writer is just as right: it makes me cringe thinking about how deperately some americans want to be led by the most useless and idiotic political scum.
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It appears you have a firm handle on American politics (and reality) all the way over in Germany.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
So the writer is a madman for speaking out which is obvious?

Yes, your would be empress is butt naked. So shamelessly incompetent-naked that her interviews and the debate was pure stupidity porn.
And as to the second point, the writer is just as right: it makes me cringe thinking about how deperately some americans want to be led by the most useless and idiotic political scum.

It appears you have a firm handle on American politics (and reality) all the way over in Germany. [/quote]

not to mention the english language.


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The article is correct. It’s not just about Sarah Palin, it’s about the political landscape, Left or Right, for the most part, in this country. Marketing precludes substance.
Palin looks like our High School Homecoming Queen, hell, let’s vote for her team. The author made the same point about Obama in the latter part of the article.

Look at how the debates are judged. Sarah Palin didn’t know what the fuck she was talking about…but she SCORED based on the fact that she was cute, “homey” and didn’t look like a deer caught in headlights during the debate, like she did during the Katie Couric interviews. Joe Biden, on the other hand, SCORED because he didn’t go off on tangents, sound long-winded or . GREAT! That’s substantive?

Anti-intellectualism has become a positive trait to be underscored before the American public. McCain came in third from the last in his graduating class. Sarah Palin has barely more than a community college degree. There seems to be no shame for such academic mediocrity. Yet Senator Obama had better avoid mentioning publicly his degrees or or referencing John Rawls, for fear of being branded an elitist. Go figure!

And, why not? We were mediocre in school, we got by with "C"s thanks to our forgiving teachers’ EXTRA CREDIT. If it was good enough for us, it’s good enough for our leaders.

Here’s one Palin hater who said that if Palin came to New York, she would have some of her “black brothers rape her.” Sarah Bernhard.

Here’s another outspoken Movement Feminist who hates Palin: Cintra Wilson. Are we detecting a pattern yet?

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Here’s another outspoken Movement Feminist who hates Palin: Cintra Wilson. Are we detecting a pattern yet?[/quote]

I wouldn’t be too upset. They hate Condi and Margarett Thatcher too. There must be some connection, I just can’t figure it out.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Here’s one Palin hater who said that if Palin came to New York, she would have some of her “black brothers rape her.” Sarah Bernhard. [/quote]

Please don’t post a picture of the ugliest (wo)man alive.
Is that Quentin Tarantino in a wig?

[quote]dhickey wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Here’s another outspoken Movement Feminist who hates Palin: Cintra Wilson. Are we detecting a pattern yet?

I wouldn’t be too upset. They hate Condi and Margarett Thatcher too. There must be some connection, I just can’t figure it out.[/quote]

And Ann Coulter, but I can understand that one.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:

Well, you did quote this to me:

It is worth noting that the same criticisms of Palin also hold true for two other candidates in this race, John McCain and Barack Obama. As politicians, both men are more narrative than substance…

So, if you really meant to discuss Bill O’Reilly, perhaps you should have indicated it some way in your writing.

So, you don’t like what they choose to write about. Aren’t they an entertainment magazine?

I’m not quite sure. They seem to be writing about politics in this instance, don’t they? Is Palin an actor or musician and I’m unaware?

The only problem I see is when an organization pretends to be unbiased. They do not do so.

I don’t see how this speaks to the neurosis found in the author’s piece: the author hates a person with the very same characteristics of a person he loves, outlined in my comment above. [/quote]

Um, he never stated in the piece that he loved anyone.

Again, they can choose to write about whatever they want.
I don’t care as long as they don’t pretend to be unbiased.

I brought up Bill O’Reilly as a dig at Fox news. But you probably consider them to be an unbiased source.

[quote]Christine wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Well, you did quote this to me:

It is worth noting that the same criticisms of Palin also hold true for two other candidates in this race, John McCain and Barack Obama. As politicians, both men are more narrative than substance…

So, if you really meant to discuss Bill O’Reilly, perhaps you should have indicated it some way in your writing.

So, you don’t like what they choose to write about. Aren’t they an entertainment magazine?

I’m not quite sure. They seem to be writing about politics in this instance, don’t they? Is Palin an actor or musician and I’m unaware?

The only problem I see is when an organization pretends to be unbiased. They do not do so.

I don’t see how this speaks to the neurosis found in the author’s piece: the author hates a person with the very same characteristics of a person he loves, outlined in my comment above.

Um, he never stated in the piece that he loved anyone.

Again, they can choose to write about whatever they want.
I don’t care as long as they don’t pretend to be unbiased.

I brought up Bill O’Reilly as a dig at Fox news. But you probably consider them to be an unbiased source.

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LOL. What does bias have to do with the substance of my critique? When did I mention it?

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
PR:

She is being attacked because as I’ve said many times; Palin is the “X” factor that puts McCain over the top.

I think that the attacks on her merely strengthen her supporters resolve.

Mufasa[/quote]

I don’t get it, Mufasa. You keep saying that. You’ve gotta give Palin her due. People LOVE her. She’s energized the base. Social conservatives love her. Those who detest insider politicans and buy into her being a maverick love her. Certainly has 10 times the personality of McCain.

But at the same time, lots of people HATE her. Opinion polls on her qualifications to be president or even VP are dropping all the time. Her record as a fiscally conservative political reformer is dubious at best. Lots of people who’ve done the research, especially progressives, feel BETRAYED. I know 10 people who were undecideds who don’t think they can pull the trigger on McCain since Palin is on the ticket. And I certainly haven’t been taking polls. This is just what people tell me.

I think it’s really hard to know which way Palin cuts. Has she won more people to the McCain side than she’s alienated? Or would everyone that loves Palin, and identifies with her much more than McCain, have grumbingly voted for McCain anyway no matter who he chose?

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Here’s one Palin hater who said that if Palin came to New York, she would have some of her “black brothers rape her.” Sarah Bernhard.

Please don’t post a picture of the ugliest (wo)man alive.
Is that Quentin Tarantino in a wig?

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She really is one of the ugliest women I’ve ever seen. I don’t say it about many people, but Congress really needs to pass some law forbidding her to go out in public. Or tax her for going out in public, the money going a fund to care for the people who see her and go blind. I think it’s a bipartisan initiave everyone could get behind.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Christine wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Well, you did quote this to me:

It is worth noting that the same criticisms of Palin also hold true for two other candidates in this race, John McCain and Barack Obama. As politicians, both men are more narrative than substance…

So, if you really meant to discuss Bill O’Reilly, perhaps you should have indicated it some way in your writing.

So, you don’t like what they choose to write about. Aren’t they an entertainment magazine?

I’m not quite sure. They seem to be writing about politics in this instance, don’t they? Is Palin an actor or musician and I’m unaware?

The only problem I see is when an organization pretends to be unbiased. They do not do so.

I don’t see how this speaks to the neurosis found in the author’s piece: the author hates a person with the very same characteristics of a person he loves, outlined in my comment above.

Um, he never stated in the piece that he loved anyone.

Again, they can choose to write about whatever they want.
I don’t care as long as they don’t pretend to be unbiased.

I brought up Bill O’Reilly as a dig at Fox news. But you probably consider them to be an unbiased source.

LOL. What does bias have to do with the substance of my critique? When did I mention it? [/quote]

This is from your second post on this thread.

You whined that they don’t give equal criticism to related topics. I’m just pointing out that they don’t have to, even if you don’t like it.

[quote]Christine wrote:

I brought up Bill O’Reilly as a dig at Fox news. But you probably consider them to be an unbiased source.

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In absolute terms, no. Relative to other news sourses, yes. They at least try and present both sides. They actually have the most entertaining Liberals, if you exclude combs. What I like about fox is that there is no pretence. you know when you are listening to a liberal and you know when you are listening to a conservative. the only one i can’t figure out is oreilly.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
So the writer is a madman for speaking out which is obvious?

Yes, your would be empress is butt naked. So shamelessly incompetent-naked that her interviews and the debate was pure stupidity porn.
And as to the second point, the writer is just as right: it makes me cringe thinking about how deperately some americans want to be led by the most useless and idiotic political scum.

It appears you have a firm handle on American politics (and reality) all the way over in Germany.

not to mention the english language.[/quote]

Do you speak any language fluently beside english? Can you debate, argue and small talk in them?
Apart from English and German obviously, at least I’m able to do so in two more languages.

Oh, sweet mediocrephilia…

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Here’s another outspoken Movement Feminist who hates Palin: Cintra Wilson. Are we detecting a pattern yet?[/quote]

Great way to stress Etheogenes’ point.

THEY are ugly, but SHE’s a beauty queen!

I mentioned “equal time” to point out that they really have no problem with “primitive beliefs,” because they never mention Islam, and (having studied it quite a bit), it beats Christianity on the “primitive” scale by several 10s of dB. My argument was called “tu-quoque” (google it), except that I used a valid form of it, not the brand lixy always uses.

What they really don’t like is Christianity, except that you don’t hear them bringing up the “Rev. Wright” brand because Obama is a guy they like. In summary, they have hate against one person and nut-hugging for a different person whom they should also hate if IDENTICAL STANDARDS (the ones they themselves admitted they ignored for Obama) were applied. This is called “being irrational.” It’s neurotic.

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
dhickey wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
So the writer is a madman for speaking out which is obvious?

Yes, your would be empress is butt naked. So shamelessly incompetent-naked that her interviews and the debate was pure stupidity porn.
And as to the second point, the writer is just as right: it makes me cringe thinking about how deperately some americans want to be led by the most useless and idiotic political scum.

It appears you have a firm handle on American politics (and reality) all the way over in Germany.

not to mention the english language.

Do you speak any language fluently beside english? Can you debate, argue and small talk in them?
Apart from English and German obviously, at least I’m able to do so in two more languages.

Oh, sweet mediocrephilia…
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I speak the language of mathematics quite fluently. What does this have to do with what we’re discussing, other than to serve as yet another example of Euro-trash narcissism?

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Do you speak any language fluently beside english? Can you debate, argue and small talk in them?
[/quote]

Yep…igpay atinlay.