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HSG + Arimidex Therapy

Hi All,

I’m sorry if my English is very bad.
I’m looking for your advice .

I’m 44 years old .Last two years I have problem with my mood and my sex drive is down.I read this forum a lot and I can recognize symptoms you are experiencing .I think ESTRADIOL -17 BETA is scientific name for E2 and what I see in my blood test is frightening me .TESTOSTERONE also in the lower range .

I can’t convince my doctor to test my SHBG . I’ve changed 2 doctors and here in Canada this is maximum I can do in one year .

Here is my blood test result I’ve got today:
TESTOSTERONE - 16.5 nmol/L (8.4-28.7)
FREE TESTOSTERONE -40.2 PMOL/L (25.0-80.0)
FSH -3 IU/L (2-8)
LH - 4 IU/L (2-6)
ESTRADIOL -17 BETA -127 pmol/L (43-151)
TOTAL PROLACTIN -6 ug/L (2-18)
FREE THYROXINE -16 pmol/L (9-23)
THYROTROPIN -1.65 mIU/L (0.35-5.00)
TOTAL PSA -1.49 ug/L (0.00-4.00)
LDL -3.26 nmol/L
HDL-0.94 nmol/L
TRIGLYCERIDES -2.08 nmol/L
AST -21 U/L (7-37)
ALT -26 U/L (12-49)
CHOLESTEROL - 5.15 nmol/L
GLUCOSE-FASTING -5.3 nmol/L (3.6-6.0)
HbA1C - 0.057 (0.040-0.060)

I’m considering to start HSG + arimidex therapy .There is no way my doctor give me testosterone injections…She already told that my testosterone in good range and I don’t need to worry about my estradiol…

I’ve ordered online HCG (5000X3) and arimidex (1mgX14).I don’t drink alcohol .Yes I’m overweight BF is about 23% .4 years ago I was 118 kg and now my weight is 100 kg. Most of BF is accumulated in stomach area and I can’t loose that fat .I’m eating clean and I’m cooking myself . I have no liver problem as far as I know and I’m not using any Rx or OTC drugs.

Only supplements : Vitamin C ,B-50,B-12,Saw Palmetto ,Zinc , Panax Ginseng, Ginkgo Biloba ,Horny Goat Weed ,multivitamin ,probiotics
There is no diabetes in my family.

I need advice what could be the dosage (protocol) for HCG and arimidex to start.
Thanks

I am sure that more experienced individuals will correct me if wrong but I would say HCG is not necessary. Lowering your E2 with arimidex would increase your testosterone (which is not that low and certainly high enough to be functional already)

Your labs are fine. Your E2 is a little on the high side but with your labs you should be ok. Try .5mg of Adex a week and take something to boost dopamine. You might want to try SAMe and Vitex together for a month and see what happens. You could also try Alpha Male sold here and SAMe together.

Alpha Male has a potent Vitex blended in that wil REALLY bosst dopamine or increase receptor sensitivity. No one is really sure how it works. Don’t touch the HCG. That’s not going to improve things long term and you’ll need a lot of Adex to keep up with E2.

My labs and problems were very similiar to yours and my primary problem was a mood disorder. These can sneak up on you. Moderate depression will wipe out your sex drive and give you a lot of fatigue. Us men tend to ignore these issues until they effect sex life.

brentf13 and Cymru
Thank you very much for the advice.I’m going to put aside HCG and start only with armidex .
I will take 0.25 mg of arimidex twice a week and after three months repeat blood test
To boost dopamine I will take Selepryl 5mg twice a week .
Thanks !

[quote]FatSerge wrote:
brentf13 and Cymru
Thank you very much for the advice.I’m going to put aside HCG and start only with armidex .
I will take 0.25 mg of arimidex twice a week and after three months repeat blood test
To boost dopamine I will take Selepryl 5mg twice a week .
Thanks !

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The half life of Arimidex really needs EOD dosing. Hard to split 1mg tablets smaller that 1/4th. This is where liquid anastrozole is superior in allowing fine control over dose. The liquid does present some interesting dose flexibility.

Selepryl = deprenyl as a citrate
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=deprenyl+wikipedia

The half life of the drug is short, but the MOA inhibitor action can last around 1 week. You might find 5mg per dose too much, I did. I now take 2.5mg EOD. Selepryl looks like it will ship from overseas. If you get a script and shop around, it can be cheaper than what I saw for Selepryl. As a prescription drug in the USA, most doses will be 5mg capsules. [I can open the caps and divide the dose.]

Thanks KSman!