[quote]C27 H40 O3 wrote:
I’ve only been a member of this forum for a little under a year and I don’t think I’ve seen one TU user. Really, really poor levels TT are achieved with this method of administration. Orally, the liver will process the drug and deactivate much of it before any becomes available to the entire system. For this reason B vitamins are a good idea and may prevent adverse effects.
Like KSman said, tests and causes should be investigated before T replacement. The Merck drug monograph for Andriol states the very same thing.
It sounds like your worried about messing up your healthy HPTA system. If it’s healthy, don’t take exogenous T. Taking T for a messed up HPTA makes much more sense. If your HPTA isn’t functioning optimally now, what makes you think it could recover after it’s been shut down completely? The question is, does “normal” TT levels alter the HPTA permanently or temporarily whereas it seems to be well known that supra physiologic levels can cause permanent changes. [/quote]
Yes, you are right about TT levels achieved through TU orall administration but i’ve not been prescribed these for muscles but for a therapy as medicine so it makes sense that these wont effect hpta that much as no supra levels will be attained(as far as i think)but cant say for sure as hpta is also effected due to other causes done by exogenous T.
And as for liver toxity you said then i have read this on many places that the ester used in these caps prevent it from passing through liver and very small amount passes from liver.
And does exogenous T always shutdown hpta permanently isnt there any temporary shutdown i am talking about a short therapy with no supra levels would that cause permanent shutdown.Also with my low T levels my lh and fsh are also low(according to my judgment)and may be endo’s judgment too.here are my bloodwroks:
total testosterone: 306 ng/dl ref range 249-836 ng/dl
free testosterone: 6.69 pg/ml ref range 3.84-34.17 pg/ml
Estradiol E2:4.69 pg/ml ref range 7.55-39.05 pg/ml
fsh: 2.86 mIU/ml ref range 1.4-15.4 mIU/ml
lh: 2.30mIU/ml ref range 1.2-7.8 mIU/ml
TSH: 2.74 uU/ml ref range 0.5-7.0 uU/ml
prolactin:9.49 ng/ml ref range 3.0-14.7 ng/ml
DHEAS:196.4 ug/dl ref range 80.0-560.0 ug/dl
DHT:189.48 ug/dl ref range 80.0-560.0 ug/dl
SHBG:29.47 nmol/l ref range 18.0-114.0 nmol/l
Dont you think my lh and fsh are low.please have a deep view on my whole post and bloodwork before replying.thanks