HPTA Jumpstart 24 yrs Young

Hey guys I’m attempting to do a jumpstart and could use some help w/creating a protocol. I’m 24 years old, 5’6, weigh aprox 170 lbs, decent build w/lots of fat in the stomach love handle area. I want to increase my natural test so that I can make some gains, get back my edge, and lose the extra fat.

The reason I’m attempting to do a jump start is bc of my last 3 test readings from this year. My first reading was done in the morning and came back around mid 400. The second was done in the evening and came back at 181. For my last result I stayed up all night but the blood was still drawn in the morning and came back around 318 ng/dl. For a more comprehensive list of my labs check out my other posts.

Now in high school and my first 2 years of college I was in pretty good shape (weighed 130 around 10 percent body fat). When I was 20 years old, I took 5 mg dbol every day (not on the weekends or the days I didn’t work out) for about 4 weeks. I didn’t take any test w it or do a pct, I just stopped. Dumb dumb dumb I know. Needless to say I gained fat that hasn’t gone away. Then 2 years ago I took Zoloft for 1 year. I really packed on the fat in that year and haven’t been able to lose it.

Fast forward to the present and I have ordered 30 20 mg tablets of tamodex (generic nolvadex) and 28 1 mg tablets of altraz (generic arimidex) from ADC (does anyone have any experience with these products from them? Are they legit and do they work?) I took 1 tab of tamodex yesterday, the day before, and plan to take another today. I took half a tab of altraz two days ago and plan to take the other half today. However, I don’t feel anything yet. I was wondering how long I should wait to expect to see some change and what those changes might be. I want to know what to look out for.

Also, there are so many protocols of nolvadex/arimidex online. Please provide me with a protocol and your reasoning. Right now I’m just taking 20 mg of tamodex every day and .5 mg of altraz every other day.

Thanks for reading!!


I use the tadalafil , clomid and a skin cream from ADC. It’s all good stuff but i don’t know about the tamodex

You need more labs before self treating. You shouldn’t be taking any anastrozole unless you know where your E2 is at. .5 mg EOD is high enough to drop your E2 to close to zero. Do you know what your LH and FSH are ? If they are already high, the Nolvadex won’t help you.

You didn’t give yourself much of a chance of getting a decent result on your second and third T tests. The Nolvadex will probably raise your levels but you should test T, LH, FSH and E2 every 4 to 6 weeks. You can do that yourself for $50.99 at privatemdlabs with coupon code ke8gbah. Use the hormone panel for females. It works for males too.

I just got a look at your labs on your other thread. The LH and FSH were not either low or high on the morning test. I’m not sure how to interpret the late afternoon test. These tests should be done early morning after a good sleep.

The nolvadex will probably raise your LH and FSH. Your T levels will rise with them unless you have some degree of primary low T.

You will take the SERM and you must taper off slowly and not run out too soon on the taper. 1mg anastrozole per week in divided doses, you can do .25 EOD, close enough. When you are finished SERM, you need to land on ~1/2 mg anastrozole per week in divided doses, hard to do with pieces of tablets, cruise on that for a month.

Can only work with what you have on hand.

Read the stickies, you may have other problems. Check body temps as per thyroid basics sticky.

You should not have created a new thread detached from your labs, most will not go hunting.

Freddy77 and ksman, thank you for your inputs. I’ve kind of been freaking out since this is my first time doing this type of thing, but it’s nice to be able to get help. If it wasn’t for this forum I think I’d be in real big trouble bc no doc has been willing to help.

Freddy77, I had a feeling that .5 mg of arimidex every other day might be too much. I guess I was just doing this to kind of “front-load” the arimidex into my system. I started December 17th w .5 mg arimidex and have been taking it every other day and was thinking about doing this until next Tuesday 12.31.13 (2 weeks). Do you think this is too much? Should I just do 1 mg a week instead of trying to “front-load” it into my system?

Ksman you said that I need to taper off slowly. Can you provide me with just a little bit more guidance for a plan such as 20/20/20/15/10/5 or 20/20/10/10/5/5? I guess I’m just looking for a plan to follow due to the fact that it takes about 15 days for me to get the nolvadex. I ordered 30 tabs and have used 7 of them. I guess if I had a more concrete plan I would know if I need or do not need to order more. The last thing I want to do is stop too abruptly.

Again, thanks guys. All opinions/suggestions welcome. I need the help lol