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HP Mass numbers wrong?


#1

Are the numbers for the wave loading after the MTW for upper and lower body supposed to differ in terms of jumps? For example

Upper week 2
MTW
-10
0
5
etc..

Lower week 2
MTW
-40
20
20

So on upper one of the sets is repeated with same weight but on the lower lift it continues to ramp?

Sorry if this is confusing will clarify if needed.


#2

to make it easy all i did was start at about 50 - 60% of my max training wt then had 6 sets with equal jumps in for each set

lower has larger jumps as the wt will be heavier is all


#3

yeh i just thought although the jumps would be smaller or bigger depending on if you were doing the upper they would still follow the same pattern..


#4

they won't if they'e bigger jumps, he is referring to pds with those numbers so -40pds, -20pds, 0 etc

not kgs like us


#5

thats not what I mean..

Im talking about how he wave loads after the MTW on the upper stuff some sets are repeated with the same weight while on the lower it is continually ramped


#6

weeks 1, 3, 4, 6 are waves

weeks 2 and 4 are double ramps

both for upper and lower body


#7

I figured it depended on the exercise and your MTW. For example, with the OHP and incline I only drop 10 and ramp each set with 5. For the flat bench, because my 3 rep max is over 200, I drop 20 and ramp with 10. For lower body, I drop 40 and ramp with 20 regardless of MTW. I just thought, because leg muscles are so much more powerful, they need a bigger ramp for your muscles to grow. Is this wrong?


#8

all of the above i think

yes bigger mt loads will require bigger jumps

as long as the max training ramps are 5pds apart then i don't think the earlier ramp sets matter a great deal, just get 5 progressive sets in


#9

in HP for mass weeks 4,5,6 when it says MTW + 5 your not increasing the mtw by 5 pounds each week right? it is just the same mtw + 5 for those 3 weeka?


#10

you increase each set 5pds from week 3 to week 4 and keep it there until you change cycles on week 7, so only 1 wt increase and that's at week 4