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How to Piss Off a Liberal


I'm spending Thanksgiving with my in-laws who are staunch Liberals and Bush haters. They like to ask baited questions like:

"What do you think Bush has accomplished, and how do you think he'll feel about them after his term?"

I say "he freed 29 million Iraqis and I have no idea what he will feel like; and why are you asking ME what HE will feel like?"

Their response is usually "OH Bullshit.......RANT" before I can finish my response.

Another is "Why do you republicans think it was OK to go to war?"

I discuss the UN resolution and I get cut off.

You will always run into a bees-nest when discussing WMD. I'ts like abortion.

I'd like to know any tips or phrases I can employ from my fellow conservatives and/or responses to the Liberal arsenal of questions and blame.

Maybe we can summarize it all right here?

Help me make a nice discussion for dinner. Oh the Holidays!


I got a good one!


My favourite!!!


mine too.


This is my favorite one:


I have over 3,000 dead american reasons why we should be at war.

Before you critisize the war the military and those involved just remember if it wasn't for those men and women in uniform you wouldn't have the right to ask me these questions.

I also find it very shameful that you would aid and abet comfort to terrorist groups by furthering their Negative PR blitz against us by speaking out negatively against the war effort, how deisrepectful to the families who have loved ones who volunteered to join the military and serve the national Defense in the shadow of hour country's darkest hour.

As the holidays near I am forever thankful for the sacrifices that have been made that I might sit hear and listen to you belittle the very people who gave you that right.

How about those? Man I could go on for ever "Good Luck!"


I try to avoid all political rants w/ my GF's family. I just state that "I am part of the solution and not part of the problem". That usually shuts them up. Or ask them to compair Iraq to "thier war" ie Vietnam, you know that Democrat run war that it took a Republican to pull out of.


Start a conversation this way:

"The biggest problem with our strategy at the outset of the Iraqi War was that we didn't kill enough of the enemy - especially the high-ranking and elite forces - but allowed them to retreat to form the core of one part of the terrorist insurgency."


Note on above post:

He asked how to start a conversation that would piss a liberal off. I take it that would work very well, especially phrased that way.


Is this supposed to be a knock on liberals?


Exactly what I had in mind and thanks.

I was told by them that "this war is killing your generations social security and how do you feel about that?"

I asked for a source on why SS.


Not the intention. There are no knocks involved, just viewpoints and positions.


Not at all. It's supposed to start a frustrating argument. On the one hand, they love to talk about (real and imagined) Iraq mistakes. On the other, the framing of the question, if you can keep the conversation focused on the attempt of the administration to minimize casualties and humanely let people go, will be frustrating. As will an admission that in war, it's generally a good idea to kill people who will fight against you rather than letting them run away.

I imagine this would turn in to quite a conversation, based on the examples Rockscar used above for what his in-laws tend to say.


You love to talk crap on a message board. Especially when you don't have to prove any of it.

Go get em man...go go go go ...LOL


Bodyguard, those are pretty good ones and not only piss off, but also shuts them up. Thanks for taking my request a step further.


I think it's quite a frightening thing to live in a country with so many stupid people running around.

Iraq =/= 9/11!


"More surprising perhaps are the large numbers (albeit not majorities) who believe the following claims not made by the president and which virtually no experts believe to be true:

* 47 percent believe that Saddam Hussein helped plan and support the hijackers who attacked the U.S. on September 11, 2001 (up six percentage points from November).
* 44 percent actually believe that several of the hijackers who attacked the U.S. on September 11 were Iraqis (up significantly from 37% in November)."

I imagine democracy will be a collosal failure if we don't start getting some more chlorine in our gene pool.


Oh man, another Bush lover whose feelings get hurt...


Lol. C'mon Rockscar, you know how to piss off a liberal!

Just tell us that we kill babies, hate Jesus, and are pinko commi bastards who will stop at nothing to subvert the war movement and help terrorists! It aint that hard! :wink:

This is the same reason that, even though I have been going out with my girl for 2 years, I have never once talked about politics with her family.

Young hardheaded socialist + old WASP staunch Republicans = No fun on the holidays. So I keep the trap shut.


Feelings getting hurt? Oh come on....

It's just so easy for you (or anyone) to post that crap and you have no proof that any of it's true.

You can hate on the guy all you want-That's what forums seem to be for. But it would be better if you actually substantiated all of your crap...or even some of it.

Just makes for a better discussion. No?


Try this:

Please give me a hour by hour account of your day November 3rd, 2004.

How did you feel?

Who did you call?

What excuses did you make?

Ask them if they contributed to the kerry campaign?

How does it feel knowing that the majority of Americans voted for W?

I hope it makes for a happy Thanksgiving.