I’m playing with my e2 levels in order to try to find my libido. Right now I’m lowering e2 by taking a standard dose of arimidex to lower e2 closer to the 22pg/ml this board mentions.
Should I find that lowered e2 doesn’t work, meaning, no increase in libido, I am going to try to go the other way and increase e2 while keeping test dose the same, along with e3d dosing. My dosage of test (50mg e3d) puts me at around 860 test levels.
SO, how would I effectively increase e2 while keep test dosage the same, in order to get to a better T/E ratio? FT and DHT are both higher level.
Thanks (oh, and HCG isn’t something I have access to)
Prior to e3d, I was on once weekly 100mg shot. I felt really good the day before my next shot when test had fallen, but e2 was still high… meaning the ratio was around 20%. But as it was a weekly shot, the feeling was only good for the day.
I don’t know what you consider a normal AI dose but you can just stop the AI and your E2 will rise pretty quick since AI have a very short halflife. You will have to do blood testing there is no standard formula that works for everyone.
HTH
In my experience playing with E2 levels a low E2 (20-24) works great if your SHGB is on the low side. IF your SHGB is above mid range then and E2 of 30-35 feels much better. If you are a weight lifter you want your E2 on the high side for better joint lubrication. Your knees, elbows, and shoulder will really benefit. Finding your E2 sweetspot just required experimenting and giving each change time to work.
DHEA is known to raise E2 in men and T in women.
You have stated you can’t buy HCG so that is out. I know of nothing else. You don’t supplement with DIM do you?
I have supplemented with dim prior but not in awhile.
DHEA is about the only thing I think I could try as well. Just wondered what others do that don’t produce enough estrogen from aromatase. I am pretty lean but don’t want to get fatter just to make estrogen.
@roscoe88 my personal opinion is to stay the fuck away from an AI with that e level. Libido has many layers to it besides estrogen. You are doing to crash your estrogen playing with an AI. What else is going on in life for you? Stress, sleep, etc.
I just quit coffee and all caffeine about a week ago due to always being such a light sleeper. I work as a lawyer, so that means low pay and a ton of stress (i.e. hate my job).
I was diagnosed secondary hypo a few years back, but thyroid came back ok and no tumor in pituitary.
I haven’t had a sex drive at all since I was about 20. I’m now 40. It’s been HELL on relationships.
When I first started TRT, my first protocol was 300mg test every other week. I did get glimpses of libido then, presumably from higher e2 levels.
I just think I need to get my t/e ratio closer to 20%, meaning keep my test around 860 (which it is now) but increasing e2.
Maybe i’ll lay off the “low e2” experiment and try going the other way, adding maybe a low dose of dhea to increase e2 more than my body had the ability to aromatize.
Hi Roscoe, I lost my libido for about 15 years, I’m a few years older than you, it took a TT trough of over 1100 Free T 33 labcorp top of range 18. before my libido came back balls to the wall. I have since throttled my TT back to 975 so my wife has a break, haha
I vote stopping the AI too. I was tinkering with arimidex with the same goals and crashed my E prob 5-6 times in a year. No AI now for 8 months and finally feeling good again.
What’s “normal” AI dose for you anyway? Mg and frequency?
Exactly. Like that warm feeling that takes over your body when you’re with a girl, etc. is lacking. There is a litttttleeee blood flow, but not much.
Like I explained, I think test (at the right level) says to the body "ok, all of the orchestra is here ready to go… we just need the conductor (estrogen in the right amount) .
I have been with Defy for the last two years .25(50mg) M/W/F so 150mg/wk, 400iu HCG 2xWk, AI anastrozole .125mg 3 times a week
After two months my E2 was 28 My shgb is 25 Your shgb matters more than you might think. What was yours again?