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How to Fix America

Taken from
“How We Can Win the Second American Revolution Without Firing a Shot”

A Tea Party Manifesto

by James Ostrowski

  1. Liquidate the global military empire, ending the two Asian land wars that George Bush got us into and the Democrats and Obama helped pay for.

  2. Take the savings, trillions, and liquidate the federal welfare state, buying out all Social Security recipients with lump sum payments.

  3. Abolish all the unconstitutional departments and programs like Education, Energy, HUD, HHS, and Agriculture.

  4. Then we can repeal the Goddamned Income Tax Amendment, the worst thing that ever happened to this country, except for possiblyâ??

  5. The Federal Reserveâ??abolish it. Repeal the legal tender laws and gold and silver will automatically become market money.

  6. Now, add a couple of amendments to bring the moribund Constitution back to life. Ban all corporate welfare so we never again have bankster heists and corporate bailouts. And, since true federalism was destroyed in the Civil War, letâ??s recognize what the Founders understood in 1776, that any republic has the right to withdraw from a union when it so chooses. That will guarantee that the federal government will never again turn into a monstrous, murderous, counterfeiting kleptocacy…

you go girl!

I like it.

[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
Taken from
“How We Can Win the Second American Revolution Without Firing a Shot”

A Tea Party Manifesto

by James Ostrowski

  1. Liquidate the global military empire, ending the two Asian land wars that George Bush got us into and the Democrats and Obama helped pay for.

  2. Take the savings, trillions, and liquidate the federal welfare state, buying out all Social Security recipients with lump sum payments.

  3. Abolish all the unconstitutional departments and programs like Education, Energy, HUD, HHS, and Agriculture.

  4. Then we can repeal the Goddamned Income Tax Amendment, the worst thing that ever happened to this country, except for possiblyâ??

  5. The Federal Reserveâ??abolish it. Repeal the legal tender laws and gold and silver will automatically become market money.

  6. Now, add a couple of amendments to bring the moribund Constitution back to life. Ban all corporate welfare so we never again have bankster heists and corporate bailouts. And, since true federalism was destroyed in the Civil War, letâ??s recognize what the Founders understood in 1776, that any republic has the right to withdraw from a union when it so chooses. That will guarantee that the federal government will never again turn into a monstrous, murderous, counterfeiting kleptocacy…[/quote]

In a free country, the government more or less reflects the PHILOSOPHY of the people in that country. What is the philosophy most Americans embrace?

Most Americans are altruists. This means that they deem it morally correct for government to help the poor, the aged, the unemployed, and so forth. Most Americans also believe that the use of force, as long as it is legal and they vote for it, is moral. They have thus created a government that uses force to pry money from those who produce and give that money to those listed above.

Unfortunately this sort of government attracts to it people who enjoy wielding power over others. And so, the race is on – victory goes to the group that is the most cunning and violent. The government evolves toward Fascism as a military/industrial complex.

So while your ideals are nice, I suspect your leaders will die in ‘car crashes’ or have a meth lab ‘discovered’ on their property.

This chart shows that we are at the end of a long road. For 30 years, we’ve been propped up by slowly decreasing interest rates. Got a recession? Lower the rates. Huge parts of our economy became dependent on EVER-DECREASING interest rates. Take a moment and drive that into your heads – a lot of jobs only exist(ed) because of ever-declining rates.

The rates are now at or near zero. The saturation point has been reached. So all those jobs that were created in this way are evolving out of the system. Now the liquidation process must proceed as the snowball effect develops --> A can’t pay B, B can’t pay C, and so on.

This really really is a Great Depression. The outcome will be a National Socialist type state. Sorry America, the dream is over.

…any republic has the right to withdraw from a union when it so chooses. That will guarantee that the federal government will never again turn into a monstrous, murderous, counterfeiting kleptocacy…

That always sounds good…except that you will most likely end up with 50 (or more) monstorous, muderous, counterfieting kleptocacies.

State and local Goverments have proven over and over again that they can do things that make the Fed look like Camelot.

Mufasa

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
a lot of jobs only exist(ed) because of ever-declining rates.
[/quote]

such as?

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
…any republic has the right to withdraw from a union when it so chooses. That will guarantee that the federal government will never again turn into a monstrous, murderous, counterfeiting kleptocacy…

That always sounds good…except that you will most likely end up with 50 (or more) monstorous, muderous, counterfieting kleptocacies.

State and local Goverments have proven over and over again that they can do things that make the Fed look like Camelot.

Mufasa[/quote]

I am assuming you realize the probablility of 50 monsterous, murderous, conterfieting kleptocracies is pretty unlikely. Thus the advantage of Federalism. People can chose to live in the monsterous, murderous, counterfieting, keptocracy. Or then can easily choose not to.

Just the threat of secession would probably eliminate the reasons to actually secede.

Do you really believe federalism would not be an improvement over a centralized gov’t with limitless power?

Jobs did were created because of low rates and loose monetary policy that was not covered by investment (which the low interest rates deterred). Imagine your salary, if all you do is spend your money on consumer goods how can you buy that which exceeds your salary such as a house or a college education? Your choices are borrow or save. Most opted for the former as a result of the perverse incentive system this country created.

So what we did is have an illusory economy that was operating far beyond its capacity and now we payed the price. We essentially on a macro and micro level were paying off credit cards with credit cards. Now we are fixing that problem with the same measures that got us into it. Raising interest rates will need to occur in order to develop capital in this country, and thats just the economy.

Stable monetary policies will also increase investment because business will not have to worry about making investments one day and seeing a whole different ROI calculation the next day when the government declares another one of its fucked up plans.

Lower taxes, people spend, raise interest rates, people save and invest. Stop fiscal lunacy, its great to spend with someone elses credit card which is what your politicians are doing. Reduce the acrid dependancy state where people are waiving their rights with their flags. Constitutional checks and balances need to be restored.

Basically anything that is being done in this coountry needs to be done the opposite way.

“…Do you really believe federalism would not be an improvement over a centralized gov’t with limitless power?..”

No; I am not saying that.

I am saying that Federal, State and Local Governments do some things good…and some things bad.

That’s all.

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Do you really believe federalism would not be an improvement over a centralized gov’t with limitless power?..”

No; I am not saying that.

I am saying that Federal, State and Local Governments do some things good…and some things bad.

That’s all.

Mufasa [/quote]

Sure.

But you can leave your city easier than your county, than your state, than the US.

I makes sure that voting with your feet is always possible.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Do you really believe federalism would not be an improvement over a centralized gov’t with limitless power?..”

No; I am not saying that.

I am saying that Federal, State and Local Governments do some things good…and some things bad.

That’s all.

Mufasa [/quote]

Gotcha, but not sure what that has to do with the thread topic. A move towards federalism would a gigantic step towards “fixing” America.

  • The Federal gov’t should only provide what the states themselves cannot practically provide.
  • States should only provide what local gov’ts cannot practically provide.
  • Local gov’ts should only provide what their citizens cannot practically provide without them.

Centralized gov’t has the same handicap as centralized economic planning. Knowledge is local.

  • I know better than my local gov’t what is best for my family.
  • My local gov’t knows better than the state what is best for our community.
  • MN state gov’t knows better than representatives from other states what is best for MN.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
“…Do you really believe federalism would not be an improvement over a centralized gov’t with limitless power?..”

No; I am not saying that.

I am saying that Federal, State and Local Governments do some things good…and some things bad.

That’s all.

Mufasa

Gotcha, but not sure what that has to do with the thread topic. A move towards federalism would a gigantic step towards “fixing” America.

  • The Federal gov’t should only provide what the states themselves cannot practically provide.
  • States should only provide what local gov’ts cannot practically provide.
  • Local gov’ts should only provide what their citizens cannot practically provide without them.

Centralized gov’t has the same handicap as centralized economic planning. Knowledge is local.

  • I know better than my local gov’t what is best for my family.
  • My local gov’t knows better than the state what is best for our community.
  • MN state gov’t knows better than representatives from other states what is best for MN. [/quote]

D:

What you just wrote I can certainly agree with. As a matter of fact, it’s one of the best views about State, Local and Federal Government that I’ve read in a while.

However; there is often a “black/white”/“good/evil” when you begin to discuss the Federal Government when compared to those on the State and Local levels.

Mufasa

Oh…what did my statement have to do with the thread topic?

I just wanted to get my thoughts in before this thread took a predictable course like many have before it that were similar.

Mufasa

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
a lot of jobs only exist(ed) because of ever-declining rates.

such as?[/quote]

Construction, autos, real estate, banking, mortgage companies, on and on. All those industries rely upon a lower interest rate ‘next year’ to bring out the buyers. Its called making a ‘bubble’. Thought we knew about these already.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
“…Do you really believe federalism would not be an improvement over a centralized gov’t with limitless power?..”

No; I am not saying that.

I am saying that Federal, State and Local Governments do some things good…and some things bad…

But they do it much closer to home. Much closer to accountability. Their throats are much closer to the outstretched, gripping hands of its constituents.

[/quote]

Agree.

Mufasa

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
“…Do you really believe federalism would not be an improvement over a centralized gov’t with limitless power?..”

No; I am not saying that.

I am saying that Federal, State and Local Governments do some things good…and some things bad…

But they do it much closer to home. Much closer to accountability. Their throats are much closer to the outstretched, gripping hands of its constituents.

[/quote]

I do not think that it is too much about the “gripping hands of the constituents”.

I think most people seriously underestimate the power to walk away. It works in the free market, it worked in Europe that was divided into tens of thousand of jurisdictions and it works in Switzerland. The very threat that the brightest and most productive wont stand for it and will simply get up and leave, destroying the tax base, works as a more efficient deterrent than a piece of paper like a constitution ever could.

One of the most troubling developments from a libertarian point of view is that the federal government of both the US and the EU is undermining that by drawing more and more power to Washington or Brussels.

[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
Taken from
“How We Can Win the Second American Revolution Without Firing a Shot”

A Tea Party Manifesto

by James Ostrowski

  1. Liquidate the global military empire, ending the two Asian land wars that George Bush got us into and the Democrats and Obama helped pay for.

  2. Take the savings, trillions, and liquidate the federal welfare state, buying out all Social Security recipients with lump sum payments.

  3. Abolish all the unconstitutional departments and programs like Education, Energy, HUD, HHS, and Agriculture.

  4. Then we can repeal the Goddamned Income Tax Amendment, the worst thing that ever happened to this country, except for possiblyâ??

  5. The Federal Reserveâ??abolish it. Repeal the legal tender laws and gold and silver will automatically become market money.

  6. Now, add a couple of amendments to bring the moribund Constitution back to life. Ban all corporate welfare so we never again have bankster heists and corporate bailouts. And, since true federalism was destroyed in the Civil War, letâ??s recognize what the Founders understood in 1776, that any republic has the right to withdraw from a union when it so chooses. That will guarantee that the federal government will never again turn into a monstrous, murderous, counterfeiting kleptocacy…[/quote]

Holy shit what a dose of REALISM:)

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
Taken from
“How We Can Win the Second American Revolution Without Firing a Shot”

A Tea Party Manifesto

by James Ostrowski

  1. Liquidate the global military empire, ending the two Asian land wars that George Bush got us into and the Democrats and Obama helped pay for.

  2. Take the savings, trillions, and liquidate the federal welfare state, buying out all Social Security recipients with lump sum payments.

  3. Abolish all the unconstitutional departments and programs like Education, Energy, HUD, HHS, and Agriculture.

  4. Then we can repeal the Goddamned Income Tax Amendment, the worst thing that ever happened to this country, except for possibly�¢??

  5. The Federal Reserve�¢??abolish it. Repeal the legal tender laws and gold and silver will automatically become market money.

  6. Now, add a couple of amendments to bring the moribund Constitution back to life. Ban all corporate welfare so we never again have bankster heists and corporate bailouts. And, since true federalism was destroyed in the Civil War, letÃ?¢??s recognize what the Founders understood in 1776, that any republic has the right to withdraw from a union when it so chooses. That will guarantee that the federal government will never again turn into a monstrous, murderous, counterfeiting kleptocacy…

Holy shit what a dose of REALISM:)

[/quote]

Ah, those young folks these days.

Droning on about how the earth is round and not the center of the universe…

They’ll grow out of it.