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Here’s an old story from a few years back. It goes with the thread about showing homosexual movies in a History of Medicine class.

I hope everyone sees how satanistic forces are taking over our universities. We need to clean out all these nests of evil NOW!!

‘How to be Gay’ course draws fire at Michigan

By George Archibald
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

A course called "How to be Gay: Male Homosexuality and Initiation," scheduled this fall, has reignited a culture war at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. 
A family-values lobbyist is leading public opposition to the self-proclaimed "uncompromising political militancy" of the professor who teaches "lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender." 
The lobbyist, Gary Glenn, says professor David M. Halperin and the university "are guilty of perpetrating a fraud against UM students and the people of Michigan [with] propaganda statements about so-called cultural studies and academic freedom" as they promote "queer studies" at taxpayer expense. 
Mr. Glenn, president of the Michigan affiliate of the conservative American Family Association, first criticized the "How to be Gay" courses three years ago. In 2000, the Michigan state legislature fell just four votes short of passing a measure to cut off all government funds for the courses."

Evil. Pure evil.

“The homosexual agenda is as deadly as communism, except more colorful”

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Here’s an old story from a few years back. It goes with the thread about showing homosexual movies in a History of Medicine class.

I hope everyone sees how satanistic forces are taking over our universities. We need to clean out all these nests of evil NOW!!

‘How to be Gay’ course draws fire at Michigan

Evil. Pure evil.

[/quote]

HH, just come out. You’ll feel much better about yourself. You’re obviously overcompensating and not fooling anybody. Besides, the nickname gives you away.

FORREST SAWYER: Henry Adams, psychologist and professor emeritus at the University of Georgia, says people like Steve Mullins demonstrate the most intense and violent kind of homophobia: that which is internalized.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: It might be a pocket description of a homophobe, someone who has this kind of arousal, is ashamed of it, does not want anybody to know about it, and gets angry as they can be when someone instigates his sexual arousal.

FORREST SAWYER: In the early 1900s, Sigmund Freud introduced the theory that people who hate homosexuals are actually repressing their own homoerotic desires. In 1995, Henry Adams decided to test Freud’s idea. Adams only included men in this study because, he says, it’s usually homophobia in males that produces violence. First he measured the intensity of the participants’ negative feelings toward gays. Based on their responses, he divided them into two groups: homophobic and non-homophobic.

GRADUATE STUDENT: OK, we’re going to show you a couple videos.

FORREST SAWYER: Adams and two graduate students demonstrate how the study was conducted.

GRADUATE STUDENT: If the video arouses you, let it arouse you. If not, then don’t. I want you to put this on, about half-way down your penis.

FORREST SAWYER: With a measuring gauge around his penis, the participant watches heterosexual, lesbian and gay male sex scenes.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: He’s losing the erection. Coming down.

FORREST SAWYER: In the next room, Adams records the subject’s sexual response. Adams says the findings suggest Freud was right.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: That’s what we found in our study, is that guys who hate gays, who are homophobic, in fact respond to homosexual activity.

FORREST SAWYER: But Adams did not tell that to the people in the study.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: I should have asked them straight up, “Are you aware of the fact that you’ve got some homosexual arousal?” We didn’t do that. We should have because one of the big issues in this study is, so you’ve demonstrated that they’ve got homosexual arousal. Are they aware of it or are they not? If Freud was right, they’re not aware of it. In other words, it’s repressed, and this kind of thing. I’m not quite sure I believe that. I think they are aware of it, and they don’t like it in themselves.

J Abnorm Psychol. 1996 Aug;105(3):440-5.

Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?

Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.

Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, USA.

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.

[quote]Michael570 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Here’s an old story from a few years back. It goes with the thread about showing homosexual movies in a History of Medicine class.

I hope everyone sees how satanistic forces are taking over our universities. We need to clean out all these nests of evil NOW!!

‘How to be Gay’ course draws fire at Michigan

Evil. Pure evil.

HH, just come out. You’ll feel much better about yourself. You’re obviously overcompensating and not fooling anybody. Besides, the nickname gives you away.

FORREST SAWYER: Henry Adams, psychologist and professor emeritus at the University of Georgia, says people like Steve Mullins demonstrate the most intense and violent kind of homophobia: that which is internalized.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: It might be a pocket description of a homophobe, someone who has this kind of arousal, is ashamed of it, does not want anybody to know about it, and gets angry as they can be when someone instigates his sexual arousal.

FORREST SAWYER: In the early 1900s, Sigmund Freud introduced the theory that people who hate homosexuals are actually repressing their own homoerotic desires. In 1995, Henry Adams decided to test Freud’s idea. Adams only included men in this study because, he says, it’s usually homophobia in males that produces violence. First he measured the intensity of the participants’ negative feelings toward gays. Based on their responses, he divided them into two groups: homophobic and non-homophobic.

GRADUATE STUDENT: OK, we’re going to show you a couple videos.

FORREST SAWYER: Adams and two graduate students demonstrate how the study was conducted.

GRADUATE STUDENT: If the video arouses you, let it arouse you. If not, then don’t. I want you to put this on, about half-way down your penis.

FORREST SAWYER: With a measuring gauge around his penis, the participant watches heterosexual, lesbian and gay male sex scenes.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: He’s losing the erection. Coming down.

FORREST SAWYER: In the next room, Adams records the subject’s sexual response. Adams says the findings suggest Freud was right.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: That’s what we found in our study, is that guys who hate gays, who are homophobic, in fact respond to homosexual activity.

FORREST SAWYER: But Adams did not tell that to the people in the study.

Dr. HENRY ADAMS: I should have asked them straight up, “Are you aware of the fact that you’ve got some homosexual arousal?” We didn’t do that. We should have because one of the big issues in this study is, so you’ve demonstrated that they’ve got homosexual arousal. Are they aware of it or are they not? If Freud was right, they’re not aware of it. In other words, it’s repressed, and this kind of thing. I’m not quite sure I believe that. I think they are aware of it, and they don’t like it in themselves.

J Abnorm Psychol. 1996 Aug;105(3):440-5.

Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?

Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.

Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, USA.

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.

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You seem quite interested in this topic…issues?

As a american how can you say that we need to get rid of Satan.

Separate your church from my state

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Here’s an old story from a few years back. It goes with the thread about showing homosexual movies in a History of Medicine class.

I hope everyone sees how satanistic forces are taking over our universities. We need to clean out all these nests of evil NOW!!

‘How to be Gay’ course draws fire at Michigan

By George Archibald
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

A course called "How to be Gay: Male Homosexuality and Initiation," scheduled this fall, has reignited a culture war at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. 
A family-values lobbyist is leading public opposition to the self-proclaimed "uncompromising political militancy" of the professor who teaches "lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender." 
The lobbyist, Gary Glenn, says professor David M. Halperin and the university "are guilty of perpetrating a fraud against UM students and the people of Michigan [with] propaganda statements about so-called cultural studies and academic freedom" as they promote "queer studies" at taxpayer expense. 
Mr. Glenn, president of the Michigan affiliate of the conservative American Family Association, first criticized the "How to be Gay" courses three years ago. In 2000, the Michigan state legislature fell just four votes short of passing a measure to cut off all government funds for the courses."

Evil. Pure evil.

[/quote]

Wow. This is your dumbest thread in awhile, and that’s saying something. So universities in the U.S. are dominated by leftist cultural mores, to the point of absurdity? Real discovery there Einstein.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
You seem quite interested in this topic…issues?
[/quote]

Look out! We’re all gonna’ catch gay!

I came across that study in an Atomic Dog.
http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-atomicdog-004

Homophobes remind me of that article. And then I laugh a devilish laugh because I know something they don’t know.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I hope everyone sees how satanistic forces are taking over our universities. We need to clean out all these nests of evil NOW!!
[/quote]

You are such an idiot.

You know, I’d think a course like this would be one that a lot of people wouldn’t sign up for.

If there was a lot of interest in it, then it’s not something that I’d care about either way.

Now, if everyone was forced to take this course, then you’d have something to act like a complete moron about.

I’ll await your next rapid fire bullshit thread topic.

Ok… A “gay” course is stupid. and I’m tired of getting all this “tolerance” crap shoved down my throat.

But that doesn’t make gay evil… thats fucked up. Just because some stupid ass extremists are fucking with some people in some college somewhere, doesn’t mean it’s representitive of the entire gay population. Do we need to be more aware of the suffering of homosexuals/bisexuals/transgenders? Of course.

Do we need it shoved down our throats? Nope.

If you hate homosexuals, you are absolutly no better than a Klu Klux Klan member, or a Nazi in that regard. You probnably don’t set out to kill, but your hate is enough to make you a terrible person in the eye’s of “god” and me.

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Ok… A “gay” course is stupid. and I’m tired of getting all this “tolerance” crap shoved down my throat.

But that doesn’t make gay evil… thats fucked up. Just because some stupid ass extremists are fucking with some people in some college somewhere, doesn’t mean it’s representitive of the entire gay population. Do we need to be more aware of the suffering of homosexuals/bisexuals/transgenders? Of course.

Do we need it shoved down our throats? Nope.

If you hate homosexuals, you are absolutly no better than a Klu Klux Klan member, or a Nazi in that regard. You probnably don’t set out to kill, but your hate is enough to make you a terrible person in the eye’s of “god” and me.[/quote]

It’s highly unlikely that it’s a required course. Colleges are also attended voluntarily. I don’t see how anything is being shoved down your throat. [Insert obvious gay sex joke here]

[quote]jlesk68 wrote:
“The homosexual agenda is as deadly as communism, except more colorful”[/quote]

What’s the slogan now? “Better dead than Fred?”

[quote]LNEX wrote:
As a american how can you say that we need to get rid of Satan.

Separate your church from my state [/quote]

perhaps you can help us understand a little more by pointing out the phrase, “separation of church and state” in the constitution, or any other official document for that matter. that would be very helpful.

Why should we seperate church and state? Hell, the left uses government as a great big charity program which steals from one, to donate to another. The right might as well get in on the action, and intrude upon the individual also. Both parties are the oppossite sides of the intrusive government coin.

Wow, people really are “arguing” for the connection between church and state?

You may want to investigate the plans for a caliphate in the middle east, I think it has something to do with the having a religion guiding the lives of all in the region.

Anyway, more seriously, WHICH FUCKING CHURCH you morons? I mean, you aren’t all the same religion even if it is a majority of variants of Christianity.

This place is depressing at times. Humanity is doomed.

[quote]Michael570 wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Ok… A “gay” course is stupid. and I’m tired of getting all this “tolerance” crap shoved down my throat.

But that doesn’t make gay evil… thats fucked up. Just because some stupid ass extremists are fucking with some people in some college somewhere, doesn’t mean it’s representitive of the entire gay population. Do we need to be more aware of the suffering of homosexuals/bisexuals/transgenders? Of course.

Do we need it shoved down our throats? Nope.

If you hate homosexuals, you are absolutly no better than a Klu Klux Klan member, or a Nazi in that regard. You probnably don’t set out to kill, but your hate is enough to make you a terrible person in the eye’s of “god” and me.

It’s highly unlikely that it’s a required course. Colleges are also attended voluntarily. I don’t see how anything is being shoved down your throat. [Insert obvious gay sex joke here][/quote]

I meant in general :smiley:

lol

[quote]toughcasey wrote:
LNEX wrote:
As a american how can you say that we need to get rid of Satan.

Separate your church from my state

perhaps you can help us understand a little more by pointing out the phrase, “separation of church and state” in the constitution, or any other official document for that matter. that would be very helpful.[/quote]

so what if it isn’t in the constitution are you saying that the us should have a national religion.

that is aginst everything that the US “as a land of the free is about”

how is a Christian a better american than a Witch, Jew or athiest.

Maybe the founding fathers didn’t want that type of freedom but they also didn’t want blacks, women or people that didn’t own property to vote.

I simply would like to lord my own church over people, via government. Just as the government is lorded over me through the taxation of my labor (and the fruits of), and the redistribution of my wealth, through government enforced charity programs. Again, it’s why I get a chuckle out of democrats and republicans argueing. It’s a battle of who gets to use the force of government on issues that should be left to private individuals.

[quote]LNEX wrote:
toughcasey wrote:
LNEX wrote:
As a american how can you say that we need to get rid of Satan.

Separate your church from my state

perhaps you can help us understand a little more by pointing out the phrase, “separation of church and state” in the constitution, or any other official document for that matter. that would be very helpful.

so what if it isn’t in the constitution are you saying that the us should have a national religion.

that is aginst everything that the US “as a land of the free is about”

how is a Christian a better american than a Witch, Jew or athiest.

Maybe the founding fathers didn’t want that type of freedom but they also didn’t want blacks, women or people that didn’t own property to vote.
[/quote]

i guess i should have been more clear, i understand the value of keeping politics out of church and vice versa, i just hate people abusing the term, “separation of church and state” like its something that is written in the fabric of our government. i totally agree with everything you say just wish you would have expounded a little more in your first post. cheers

[quote]LNEX wrote:
toughcasey wrote:
LNEX wrote:
As a american how can you say that we need to get rid of Satan.

Separate your church from my state

perhaps you can help us understand a little more by pointing out the phrase, “separation of church and state” in the constitution, or any other official document for that matter. that would be very helpful.

so what if it isn’t in the constitution are you saying that the us should have a national religion.

that is aginst everything that the US “as a land of the free is about”

how is a Christian a better american than a Witch, Jew or athiest.

Maybe the founding fathers didn’t want that type of freedom but they also didn’t want blacks, women or people that didn’t own property to vote.
[/quote]

Q: “how is a Christian a better american than a Witch, Jew or athiest.”

A: The Christian is going to Heaven. The others are going to burn in eternal hellfire. (But that’s kind of a touchy subject. I really wish you wouldn’t have brought it up.)

[quote]Michael570 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
You seem quite interested in this topic…issues?

Look out! We’re all gonna’ catch gay!

I came across that study in an Atomic Dog.
http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-atomicdog-004

Homophobes remind me of that article. And then I laugh a devilish laugh because I know something they don’t know.
[/quote]

Let’s light up that tiny little unused portion of your head called your brain.

Look, whether someone is ‘aroused’ by gay porn or some other sick shit, it doesn’t mean you should be teaching that to impressionable 18 and 19 year olds. If someone is gay, that’s their business. But teaching this kind of shit is evil.

Many guys on here say they are aroused watching lesbian sex. Does that mean they secretly want to be lesbians? Should they have a class for men who are lesbians trapped in a man’s body? What a fucking crock!!

Your position is an old Leftist trick, switching things around, name-calling, all in the interest of making normal people be tolerant of base and perverted behavior. What’s next? Should I be tolerant of a terrorist’s desire to kill me? I can see you screaming “You’re intolerant!!” just before I try to kill a terrorist trying to blow up a school bus.

I am intolerant. I do NOT tolerate what I consider evil, no matter who complains, who says I’m a ‘homophobe’ (which is false), or how many people say it. The world is perishing from too much tolerance.