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How This for a Push/Squat Tabata?


#1

barbell squat @ 35%1RM + 60#'s of chains
plyo pushups
double kettle thrusters 2x 20#'s
1 arm standing kettle press 40#
goblet squat 56# kettle
100 foot sled push
EZ curl standing tricep press

X3 rounds, 2 min rest between rounds

I nearly puked then dry heaved during a 3 min round of Thai boxing

it was fun, but brutal


#2

and you lived to tell of this?!! good work


#3

hahaha seriously! unless the OP is a cardiovascular machine theres no way he was pushing it during that workout. Thats fucking insane OP! sounds absolutely terrible lol


#4

20 seconds on and 10 off with this? For three rounds?


#5

I know I'm being a bit anal, but I wish people would stop making up routines and labelling them as Tabata just because they work for 20 seconds and rest for 10. The tabata protocol was a cardio workout done at a ridiculous intensity (170% of vo2 max) and if you have ever tried it you would not be able to contemplate doing it for three rounds. Same goes for tabata front squats, tabata push ups, whatever. I know doing squats and kettlebell swings is very knackering, but nowhere near as taxing as working at 170% vo2 max and the weights as far as intensity of 1rm are concerned are too low to have any real strength benefits. Train with heavy weights for strength and do cardio for stamina. Your workout is just circuit training which is not very good at improving either.


#6

Being as you don't know what he's training for, I'd suggest you hold your tongue.

Anyone who is a fighter or trains like one can find this type of training EXTREMELY useful.


#7

Farmer: you are 100% correct...this is not a tabatas in the technical sense of the word, and I think most people who use the protocol are aware of that. it's more an issue of expediency. it's alot quicker to explain a workout in 1 word like "tabatas" then "8 rounds of 20:10 work:rest intervals." It's like plyometrics. How many people misuse that word to refer to cardio workouts that involve a lot of jumping? But you know what they're referring to.

As far as heavy weights for strength, cardio for stamina? Why not do both at the same time? Either you are stuck in the 1980s mindset of exercise science, or you know some secret I don't...oh and Alwyn Cosgrove, Robert dos Remedios, Chad Waterbury, Eric Cressey, etc. don't know either. Read up, buddy, before you criticize someone else's methods just because they are different than yours.

FightinIrish: x2!! But more than just fighters. Anyone who does anything could benefit from this type of training (if they're in good enough shape for it.) btw, I graduated from ND 2005, what year were you?


#8

You're right it is a question of terminology this workout is circuit training. I also agree that this type of training can be effective if you have a limited amount of training time and want to improve strength and stamina. However I stand by the statement that doing them separately will result in greater improvements. Please link me to some studies showing how weights of 35% of 1 rm can result in strength improvements in "trained" individuals. Good luck finding some. (Studies with controls etc).Don't sneer at scientific studies, this is the only way we can determine the effectiveness of training systems, without being influenced by empirical evidence and opinion. I'm sure the reason these sorts of workouts are popular with Cosgrove, Waterbury etc is because they give "the most bang for your buck" for people who only have 45 minutes 3x week to train. I'm sure if you asked them what is the best way to increase strength and what is the best way to improve stamina, they would give you very different answers!


#9

Absolutely agree.

And the handle isn't from Notre Dame, haha, more because I'm Irish and... seen my share?