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How Long?

Not really important just curious,how long does it normally take to start noticing gains on a short esther cycle…ie tren a and test prop? I have noticed my muscles are not sore the next day no matter how hard I train which is niceee

You should start seeing something by the beginning of the second week. You should really be noticing it by the beginning of the third.

Especially true in the case of test combined with tren.