Thank you for the insight. I don’t think the question is whether somebody should remain permanently fat (obviously dieting must happen sooner, rather than later), but I believe Dante’s views were in reference to achieving the most muscle in the shortest period of time.
This runs completely contrary to the current trend on the forums, which is to lean bulk (I personally am stripping away unnecessary fat and have cleaned up my diet a bunch, and I am very happy with the results; though, I am also not sure if my goals are in line with those who wish to be the absolute biggest they can be anymore). austin_bicep has even posted that he is glad that he got very strong first, before attempting to focus more on the muscle, but I know a lot of people regret that initial bulk that got them very fat. Dante argues, however, that this bulk is necessary in order for one to reach their full potential ASAP.
Again, I am personally leaning out while focusing on strength on a bodybuilding split, and it has served me well so far. I will probably re-introduce calories when I am leaner, seeing as I fell for the dogma that was present around when I joined in 2010, and I don’t think my physique was in a place where nutrients were being partitioned properly (basically, I was too fat and proceeded to get fatter… I made progress, but I am not sure being overweight helped me and, also, I was never really fat… just on the slightly overweight side to begin with).
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
So, Professor X catches a lot of flak for his approach lately. How about Dante, a respected coach (with a respected training system) who has advocated very similar approaches to building beastly 250lb lean physiques?
Just like any other aspect of training or diet, you’re going to have people on both sides. Some will cite science and top athletes as examples, others will simply cite top athletes as examples. While I’ve personally never read much about Dante’s take on diet, the ‘top’ Pro I can think of who is a DC advocate is Dave Henry, and I’ve never seen him hold any excessively sloppy weight during his pro career. Please note though, I’m not bashing Dante at all, because I’m certainly no expert on his theories. All I can do is cite my own knowledge and experiences.
In this game, you must learn to put on LBM, and if you plan to present a bodybuilder-eque physique (as opposed to just being a ‘big dude’) you must learn to strip fat. The number of folks, competitors and non-competitors alike, who have done this over the years must be uncountable. However, as science has caught up with ‘gym-science’, I think it’s safe to say that the old school approach of bulk-then-cut has been cast aside by most as unnecessary.