[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Usually 2 hours. Sometimes only 1 or 1.5.
Now that is when using AAS. I try to cut it to 1 hr to 1.5 when not.
It’s true that there’s been a finding, or findings, that T levels are lower at a timepoint 1 hour into a workout. However myself I don’t see why that is intrinsically important (and it’s certainly not when using androgens.) The most likely thing, IMO, is increased rate of sulfation, which is reversible, causing momentarily lower levels but not necessarily lower area-under-the-curve for the day.
The latter measurement is what I’d want to see before figuring there was any importance to it.
Also, the effects of the androgen receptor are not fast-acting. It takes days actually inbetween activation and the end-product proteins being produced. So momentarily being low is not intrinsically important.
Where I do think there is a real effect is that without the right nutrition, the body runs out of gas in extended workouts, unless they are rather lazy.
As to why my workouts are so long, it’s partly because of fairly high volume, and because while there will usually be some things that involve brief rest periods for hypertrophy reasons, there will also be parts of the workout that have ample rest between sets. And because these days I have to warm up and ramp more than I used to, which takes time.
You’re just not going to do Smolov for a given exercise, and also train a substantial amount of the rest of the body, and get out of the gym in 45 minutes, for example. Not happening.
I’m not saying that there aren’t valid and effective workouts in the 45 minute range. There certainly are. But what I’m doing, for me personally, takes longer. I have also certainly done the faster approach in the past.[/quote]
Wow Bill you basically took the words right out of my mouth, granted it looks alot better when you write it. 1.5-2 on, 1.15-1.5 off. I am a guy who needs more volume to grow. If I feel after my 4th set like I didnt get enough, I will play it by ear and do another set too. I make sure my muscles are broken down to the max before I leave. I have been known to workout and be walking out the door and come back and superset set something because I could still walk or lift my arms up. Thats just me though.