[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]MattHoff102 wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]MattHoff102 wrote:
@TRTblastcruise
never said anything like that!
I am not here to lecture you but I must presume that you must be one of those genetically gifted people that do not suffer prolactin or lactation issues with tren. Good for you
Regarding the document, in a few words, various scenarios were assessed but there is one part where there is evidence of increased estrogenic secretion of estradiol which as you might know is considered a factor that can increase prolactin.
Dopamine agonists are not candies for sure but an AI or a SERM won’t do much when the tits are coming out and the cause is not test but the addition of Tren. If Caba is too much then maybe pramipexole is a good choice as does not have the cardiac side effects that cabergoline induce at higher dose (at 0.5, 2 times a week for a short period, cardiac side effects like fibrosis are not noted with caba).
Again you must be genetically gifted but there are quite a few people that with tren have this problem and only something like Dostinex, Prami or Bromo will do the job. B6 might do the job too at high dosage but might cause problems as well to certain parts of the brain.
I have seen quite a few posts on Tnation however that include Dostinex in tren cycles or at least they have it at hand.
People who are very sensitive to E2, and progesterone(caba won’t do much for Progesterone) could have problems even at low dosages of Tren. Not everybody but there is a number that do.
That’s all I am trying to say.
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I tend to agree with what you say here, based upon the experience of a good and very knowledgeable friend of mine.
Any time he added tren to a cycle, he got gyno badly. The only thing that sorted it out was pramipexole, ergo there was likely some degree of prolactin involvment.
Despite the standard literature telling us that tren doesn’t effect prolactin, that’s a biy like saying ‘there are no black swans’. Just becuase the tested subjects didn’t have elevated prolactin from tren, doesn’t mean that there isn’t a subset of the population that does.
Hoestly these days, the more I learn about hormones, the more I realise that all bets are off. There will always be undocumented and ‘unreasonable’ (from a science/logic perspective) reactions to hromones - or any drug for that matter.
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I was reading a bit and some very acclaimed people were contradicting the argument by saying that the Tren giving these sort of problem could not be 100% pure and mixed with something like NPP but yet without providing any prove of the claims.
To be honest I don’t know but when veterans know the source is reliable or they have made their tren at home from the powder or pellets and have got all the sides like aggression, major strenght increase, insomnia, sweats, then this should indicate that there is a lot of tren in it to say the least.
Then again only laboratory tests can say if a substance is 100% or whatever.
And we all know that science has gone only half way with proving stuff with AAS, espicially with substances like trenbolone on humans.
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My friend makes all his own stuff, has done for years and gets his powders tested.
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I don’t understand why some people keep on insisting that is not tren.