I’ve used tbol many times, it is my favorite oral. Only side effect I’ve noticed from it is after 4-5 weeks I start getting the back pumps. I’ve never done bloods while on cycle (with tbol or any other gear), but I can tell you this ‘anecdotally’. End of last year I ran a cycle with dbol, just to see if I saw any better effects from it versus tbol. I was taking nolvadex while on dbol to avoid bloating, but I still felt more ‘pressure’ in my face/head when lifting heavy - I’ve never felt that pressure when on tbol. My guess is that dbol raised my BP, where tbol doesn’t (at least to any noticeable degree).