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How Best to Use 12000iu HCG


#1

so I've finally got my hands on some hCG. I have 2 boxes, each with 3 vials containing 2000iu.

If I start tomorrow doing 500iu 2x a week (including the 2 weeks before PCT), that comes to 10500iu, leaving me 1500iu extra to play with.

I was thinking, I could make my first shot tomorrow 1000iu, and my last shot before PCT 1000iu, leaving me with only 500iu left (could even do 1500iu for my last shot before PCT...)

anyone have any ideas of a better way to do this? All help is, as always, much appreciated.

Cheers


#2

250 iu 2-3 times per week is standard.

More is not more effective and potentially more harmful.

Do some research. You have no IDEA what youre talking about


#3

heh, I thought I was researching by asking the question! You'll have to forgive my ignorance, if I come across as a clueless newb it's because, well, that's what I am. I'm keen to learn though...

it's interesting you say that more than 250iu 2 or 3 times a week is not more effective and could be harmful, that's actually totally different to what I've read elsewhere. You certainly seem to know your stuff though Bonez and you've steered me right in the past so I'll trust you.

Lots to consider! How about:

250 iu twice a week, then 500iu daily for ten days after last injection, stopping 4 days prior to PCT? Are you a fan of the pre-PCT blast?


#4

250iu 2-3 times per week during the cycle is standard.

Im not sure if I could be any clearer.

Do you know what hCG does?


#5

These are the steps you need to take:

1) Put all of the vials in discreet household items (shoes, shampoo bottles, etc.)
2) Stick all into a box
3) Tape up box and write on address I will PM you
4) Take to post office and pay postage
5) Ship package to someone who knows how to use the HCG you have and has a legitimate need for it (as a TRT adjunct).

Sorry, just pissed I have to go on the black market to get something that I need as a medical necessity because its unavailable due to so many retards doing the hcg diet.


#6

ok ok, so no blast at the end. I got it.

As for what it does, something like stimulating your nads to release leutenising hormone (sp?) which means your balls wake up, so the "T" part of your HPTA comes back in action, essentially making recovery easier. That about right?

One more question if I may: does the 2-3 times a week include the 2 weeks between my last injection and PCT?


#7

muhuuhuu! Buuhuhuhuhu

That was me crying because you were mean to me. I'm off to listen to Coldplay and self harm...

I'm sorry to hear about your situation, and if you come to Glasgow I've got a bunch of hcg I'll gladly give you free of charge. I've got stuff I don't need.


#8

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#9

I would say yes, you will still have suppressive levels of exogenous hormone in your blood in that two week period between your last injection and PCT.


#10

I have read your thread about nut shrinkage during PCT. I'm wondering when the best time would be to stop HCG administration. I imagine that you'd have to balance keeping the nuts full with not keeping your HPTA suppressed. The next time you cycle, when do you plan on discontinuing HCG?


#11

cool, when you say it like that it definitely makes sense. I just wasn't sure because I know hCG can raise E levels and whatnot... I guess I was just overthinking it.

Thanks again for all your help guys.


#12

Should I cycle again which doesnt seem likely, I will run the hCG up until the first day of PCT. I would make sure all esters have cleared or at least below 100mg (which bill roberts suggests is the suppressive level) till I discontinue hCG.
Discontinue it too early and you run the risk of shutting down the testes in the period you are suppressed, but discontinue it too late and you will impede your recovery due to the elevated estrogen it causes.


#13

thanks man, I like you too


#14

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
These are the steps you need to take:

1) Put all of the vials in discreet household items (shoes, shampoo bottles, etc.)
2) Stick all into a box
3) Tape up box and write on address I will PM you
4) Take to post office and pay postage
5) Ship package to someone who knows how to use the HCG you have and has a legitimate need for it (as a TRT adjunct).

So I have an appointment today with the Endo to discuss my labs. I would like to get a scrip for HCG as my "boys" ache and have shrunken quite a bit. I don't know if this is a sound medical reason to get put on HCG therapy so I wanted to ask you guys what else would be a legitimate complaint that would be addressed with HCG?

I posted here because I did a site search for HCG and found this thread. Perhaps this should be moved to the TRT forum but I don't care, I'm just looking for some feedback and guidance.

Thoughts?