[quote]Professor X wrote:
Many people I know show almost incredible discipline in other areas but slacken with regard to nutrition. It’s only a question of how important this is for you. )
Hmmm, some people I know are absolutely anal with their diet yet have no results physically to show for their extreme attention to detail. This is bodybuilding. While I personally think ice cream is just short of a plate of cookies, the occasional serving of it won’t exactly destroy anyone’s progress.
What I hate to see are those who are quick to discuss how much retraint they have in the kitchen…yet the last time they added an inch of muscle anywhere only came with a growth spurt in high school.
I think if you cheat on “empty foods” like that, is should be few and far between. However, I wouldn’t recommend someone has to enter a nutritional convent for the rest of their lives.[/quote]
Basically no disagreement with what you wrote.
In this specific case, the OP stated that he is [quote]…trying to get off my last stubborn 10lbs[/quote]. From this, I concluded that he already had lowered his bodyfat to a significant degree and is seeking further progress. Ditching the ice cream seems to be an obvious step.
Apart from that, as I stated above, for me and probably for other people as well it is easier to exclude useless things like ice cream, probably one of the worst choices you can make, permanently than planning to have them as a treat (notice the positive connotation) once in a while. After an initial phase, it doesn’t take any restraint at all. No convent mentality needed. I simply don’t consider food an adequate means for gratification, curing a bad mood, etc., which I find to be a pretty common use.
My post was definitely not meant to take the concept of a clean bulk to the extreme, e.g. obsessing over eating a pizza or fast food once in a while to get some extra calories if needed. Even in this context, I consider ice cream one of the poorest options one could choose, so why not lay off the habit for good?