HOT-ROX Extreme & Coffee

Diet and Nutrition
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I am currently cutting and taking 4 HOT-ROX Extreme pills a day.
I used the search function, however coulnd’t find anything specific.
Even though I am certain nobody will tell me the exact amount of caffeine inside HOT-ROX (can’t be much as it is not listed as one of the first ingredients) , I am wondering whether drinking coffee (1 or 2 cups and some green tea a day) is a problem while on HOT-ROX. I am not particularly responsive to caffeine (I just love the taste of coffee) I am just asking whether this is potentially unhealthy?

Thanks in advance

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i recently asked this question and customer service or whatever told me that a pill has the equivalent caffeine content of around 1 cup of coffee.

so that puts 4 pills a day at anywhere from 200-280 mg caffeine a day

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet

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decaf coffe if youre really worried?

Not sure if decaf coffee has the same antioxidant properties though.

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Wow thanks for replying so quickly! Decaf is of course an option I thought about, but I actually never found any decaf that actually tasted like real coffee. It’s like beer and alcohol-free beer, at least I think it is, I don’t like beer so I wouldn’t know.
Anyway thanks again for answering my question! Thread can be closed.

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[quote]ialwayslose wrote:

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet[/quote]

LOL, holy shit, I would expect my heart to have exploded by now then…

300 a day? That is so little, why bother drinking the stuff.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ialwayslose wrote:

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet[/quote]

LOL, holy shit, I would expect my heart to have exploded by now then…

300 a day? That is so little, why bother drinking the stuff.[/quote]

Yah, that’s total bullshit. And “may be implicated” is the the term researchers use when they have no fucking clue or evidence to support their hypothesis lol.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ialwayslose wrote:

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet[/quote]

LOL, holy shit, I would expect my heart to have exploded by now then…

300 a day? That is so little, why bother drinking the stuff.[/quote]

Yah, that’s total bullshit. And “may be implicated” is the the term researchers use when they have no fucking clue or evidence to support their hypothesis lol.[/quote]

I believe I remember you are around a gram pre workout correct?

I’m going to bump up to 400mg pre, but I don’t need to be up until 1am every night either.

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A cup of coffee per pill is what I got as the response to how much is in one Spike… I think the strongest cup of coffee would have 200 max, probably more like 100-150 though.

Funny because the effect of one Spike could have me running all day.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ialwayslose wrote:

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet[/quote]

LOL, holy shit, I would expect my heart to have exploded by now then…

300 a day? That is so little, why bother drinking the stuff.[/quote]

Yah, that’s total bullshit. And “may be implicated” is the the term researchers use when they have no fucking clue or evidence to support their hypothesis lol.[/quote]

I believe I remember you are around a gram pre workout correct?

I’m going to bump up to 400mg pre, but I don’t need to be up until 1am every night either.[/quote]

Now I don’t feel so bad about 1g per day on cuts.

Going to grab another sugar-free energy drink now, thanks guys!

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1g in a day?? That to me is a ridiculous amount… I’ve used 300-400mg max (spread out) and only during fat loss. The smallest effective dose is usually necessary… If you’ve built yourself to tolerate that much in a day, I would think you pretty much have to continue inhaling caffeine just to maintain your current function. I couldn’t imagine the withdrawals you’d go through if you dropped it completely lol.

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[quote]EGYnutrition wrote:
A cup of coffee per pill is what I got as the response to how much is in one Spike… I think the strongest cup of coffee would have 200 max, probably more like 100-150 though.

Funny because the effect of one Spike could have me running all day. [/quote]

I guess that’s why we’re all different.

Check out caffeine content in Starbuck’s coffee/espresso. http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/10/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-caffeine

I take a quad espresso (300 mgs caffeine) + 1 Spike tablet + Power Drive @ -30 WO and sleep like a baby some 6-7 hrs later. 4 WO’s per week, and on the 3 off days, I don’t take any caffeine from any source, no adverse affects or withdrawals.

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Mutsanah Haha thats crazy. For me, 1 Spike = running good 2 Spikes = I can take over the world 3 Spikes = Im actually taking over the world

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[quote]jmogill1 wrote:
1g in a day?? That to me is a ridiculous amount… I’ve used 300-400mg max (spread out) and only during fat loss. The smallest effective dose is usually necessary… If you’ve built yourself to tolerate that much in a day, I would think you pretty much have to continue inhaling caffeine just to maintain your current function. I couldn’t imagine the withdrawals you’d go through if you dropped it completely lol.[/quote]

i disagree, respectfully of course

about a year ago i was having any where up to ten ‘cups’ (typically 6 ounces w/ 150 mg per cup) of coffee a day. maybe 3 upon waking, 2-3 before lacrosse practice, and then another 2-3 prior to lifting.
i dropped all coffee at once and the only side effect i had was a bit of a headache for a day or so. i think, just like most other things, its all individual…

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[quote]jmogill1 wrote:
1g in a day?? That to me is a ridiculous amount… I’ve used 300-400mg max (spread out) and only during fat loss. The smallest effective dose is usually necessary… If you’ve built yourself to tolerate that much in a day, I would think you pretty much have to continue inhaling caffeine just to maintain your current function. I couldn’t imagine the withdrawals you’d go through if you dropped it completely lol.[/quote]

My withdrawals aren’t bad at all. Actually none, lol. I do understand some people have issues with it, but I don’t.

I love caffeine and am def over 1g a day, particularly on workout days. Deadlift day I’m with waylander and at at least a gram if not 1.5 pre workout along with everything though out the day.

Great progress man, btw.

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[quote]silverhydra wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ialwayslose wrote:

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet[/quote]

LOL, holy shit, I would expect my heart to have exploded by now then…

300 a day? That is so little, why bother drinking the stuff.[/quote]

Yah, that’s total bullshit. And “may be implicated” is the the term researchers use when they have no fucking clue or evidence to support their hypothesis lol.[/quote]

I believe I remember you are around a gram pre workout correct?

I’m going to bump up to 400mg pre, but I don’t need to be up until 1am every night either.[/quote]

Now I don’t feel so bad about 1g per day on cuts.

Going to grab another sugar-free energy drink now, thanks guys!
[/quote]

lol, yeah I wouldn’t worry about it if your sleeping at night. If I’m not sleeping, I can get run down.

I find large amounts of sugar (coke diesel or energy drinks) waste me, I crash hard.

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[quote]ialwayslose wrote:
recommend not going over 300mg a day [/quote]

are these the same people that recommend following the food pyramid?

you’re body will tell you when you’ve had too much caffeine.

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When I was in the Air Force Tech school, staying awake in class was a huge problem, it was like 9Hrs of technical lecture, while dealing with all the other bullshit the Military had us doing, so a lot of us were taking in mass amounts of caffein to stay awake in class and not fail.

I was taking in well over a gram a day of Caffein, as were a lot of my classmates. I vividly remember at times my hands would be really shaky and others would say when they went a bit too overboard they felt anxious and nervous, but nobody ever had any real issues from it.

My day usually started with 2 large thermals full of coffee. Drink mountain dew and coke throught class, pop anwhere between 1 and 4 noDoze throughout the class. And a Spike tablet before I worked out. And look how great I turned out! reference avatar

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[quote]silverhydra wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ialwayslose wrote:

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet[/quote]

LOL, holy shit, I would expect my heart to have exploded by now then…

300 a day? That is so little, why bother drinking the stuff.[/quote]

Yah, that’s total bullshit. And “may be implicated” is the the term researchers use when they have no fucking clue or evidence to support their hypothesis lol.[/quote]

I believe I remember you are around a gram pre workout correct?

I’m going to bump up to 400mg pre, but I don’t need to be up until 1am every night either.[/quote]

Now I don’t feel so bad about 1g per day on cuts.

Going to grab another sugar-free energy drink now, thanks guys!
[/quote]

Your avatar is memorizing. I can no longer focus on this thread.

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]silverhydra wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ialwayslose wrote:

many people recommend not going over 300mg a day consistently as it may be implicated in heart disease or something, at least thats what i have seen around various sites on the internet[/quote]

LOL, holy shit, I would expect my heart to have exploded by now then…

300 a day? That is so little, why bother drinking the stuff.[/quote]

Yah, that’s total bullshit. And “may be implicated” is the the term researchers use when they have no fucking clue or evidence to support their hypothesis lol.[/quote]

I believe I remember you are around a gram pre workout correct?

I’m going to bump up to 400mg pre, but I don’t need to be up until 1am every night either.[/quote]

Now I don’t feel so bad about 1g per day on cuts.

Going to grab another sugar-free energy drink now, thanks guys!
[/quote]

Your avatar is memorizing. I can no longer focus on this thread.[/quote]

then that means you need more caffeine

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about two weeks ago I took 2 capsules of regular HOT-ROX but drank a large ‘extreme caffeine’ coffee (?) from quick check an hour later…I was sweating bullets and just felt uncomfortable in a small conference room going through training with other hires…not fun