[quote]shizen wrote:
Well ed coan squat at 23 if thats true, his jump to 1000 could have been due to better advancement in gear. You make some great points though overall I agree mostly. [/quote]
nope, his 1000 was made in Inzer Z-suit in 1998 and I dont know wnich wraps he used, looks like Marathon Double Gold Line…
and Z-suit is 20+ year old material/design… so its not due to the advancement in technology, cause back in the time he was known to use old suit for few competitions… it was not like today…
maybe, BUT maybe he used frantz canvas for his 900 at 23, but consider this… ed broke his first 2400 in '92 I think at 220 bodyweight, when he pulled 901 deadlift… and he admitted that he was a lot stronger back then than in '98 when he made 2465 (his second 2400+)… just in '98 he got smarter, peaked better, upped hi BW so he avoided injuries etc.
basically he was stronger when he was younger… I also remmember an interview with him in old PLUSA from '87 where he was already squatting 900+, benching 500+, deadlifting 800+… when he said I belleive I have few more record breaking years in me…
I think he made his first 2204lb total at 198 BW (first man to do that under 200lb) in '86 or '85… you know the gear from back then… he was like 22…
and his first 2400 he made 6 years after… so it took 20 pounds of bodyweight, 6 years of training to get that extra 200lb on his total…
so, if you look at that 2204 at 22, did he peaked early?
look even now in IPF how many people does that at that BW and age…
just a numbers, to show that sports still somehow favorise younger persons… I even think that equipment prolonged active career time, strip them all naked, and till 30 most of them would either hit their peak and/or end up injured…
I gave few examples and few points to consider…
goggins squatted 1100 in his forties, but that goggins was making 800+, 881 as I remmember back in '87 or something, he was 20 something years old… and how far equipment got better since then, I doubt that older goggins is better than younger goggins…
look at the DL numbers, basically what you deadlift till 30… i dont think you’ll pull more when you’re 40 or 50… unless you really trained like shit until 30s… progress would be really low…
there are exceptions, but thing is MOST PEOPLE wont be too much stronger afterwards… if you start doing everything right from the beggining, I mean training hard and giving your best you’re going to hit numbers pretty close to your best ever within few years…
Problem is most people fuck around too much, so by the moment they realise how to do it… they already have 20 years of training under their belts, and then they think I needed all this time to get stronger…
russians… they just do what is needed to be done from beggining, good technique, best planned training, recovery techniques, bodies responds, and thats it… it has nothing to do with being russian or with vodka…
gavra