Hope and Change in the Congress

And it needs to be remembered that repealing this would take a filibuster-proof majority in favor of repealing.

That’s a shift of 20 seats.

Even the Democrats presently got their filibuster-proof majority only via voters of one state electing a Republican who then turned Democrat, plus managing to “obtain” the win in an exceedingly close, within-margin-of-error election.

Assuming the Republicans are likely to get it soon if ever is probably unreasonable and unwarranted.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
And it needs to be remembered that repealing this would take a filibuster-proof majority in favor of repealing.

That’s a shift of 20 seats.

Even the Democrats presently got their filibuster-proof majority only via voters of one state electing a Republican who then turned Democrat, plus managing to “obtain” the win in an exceedingly close, within-margin-of-error election.

Assuming the Republicans are likely to get it soon if ever is probably unreasonable and unwarranted.[/quote]

I struggle to imagine Republicans trying to repeal this even if they could. They will certainly use what they can for campaign fodder, but that’s about all we can expect should they be elected. That’s the problem with today’s Republicans.

You’re right: I should have said they would need a filibuster-proof majority of 60 without counting RINO’s.

And even then I doubt they would repeal, but would just tweak it a little or something.

Some people seem to have the feeling that it doesn’t matter much if this passes because it can just be repealed later, but I don’t think that is realistic, given how many Senate votes it takes to overcome a filibuster against any bill repealing this one.

More “Hope n’ Change”. Transparency, my ass!

For Their Next Trick . . .
The latest example of violating principles of transparency and accountability in the single-minded pursuit of legislative victory.

By JOHN FUND

Look for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to try to circumvent the traditional conference committee process by which the different versions of health care reform passed by each house will be reconciled. If so, it will be the latest example of violating principles of transparency and accountability in the single-minded pursuit of legislative victory.

But serious dialogue isn’t what Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid are interested in right now. Look for the traditional conference committee to be replaced by a “ping-pong” game in which health care is finalized behind closed doors with little public scrutiny before the bill is rushed to the floor of each chamber for a final vote.

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Hey T. Jefferson, you got somethin to say on the current situation in dc?

?The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.?
?Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny?

Thanks bud, anything else?

?Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government…?

Ah I see…

A good friend summed up the current attitude in washington, “the problem is that socialism is winning the war of ideas. People are convinced that they have rights that they have never had before. Life, Liberty, and Property…but people are convinced there are four or five more listed somewhere”