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Hope and Change in the Congress

Yep, no more sweetheart deals, catering to lobbying groups, earmarks, favors, or partisan wrangling. Looks like the new boss is the same as the old boss… So, how’s that ‘hope and change’ working for ya, Suckers?

Payoffs for states get Harry Reid to 60 votes

Ben Nelsonâ??s â??Cornhusker Kickback,â?? as the GOP is calling it, got all the attention Saturday, but other senators lined up for deals as Majority Leader Harry Reid corralled the last few votes for a health reform package.

Nelsonâ??s might be the most blatant â?? a deal carved out for a single state, a permanent exemption from the state share of Medicaid expansion for Nebraska, meaning federal taxpayers have to kick in an additional $45 million in the first decade.

But another Democratic holdout, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), took credit for $10 billion in new funding for community health centers, while denying it was a â??sweetheart deal.â?? He was clearly more enthusiastic about a bill he said he couldnâ??t support just three days ago.

Nelson and Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) carved out an exemption for non-profit insurers in their states from a hefty excise tax. Similar insurers in the other 48 states will pay the tax.

Vermont and Massachusetts were given additional Medicaid funding, another plus for Sanders and Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) Three states â?? Pennsylvania, New York and Florida â?? all won protections for their Medicare Advantage beneficiaries at a time when the program is facing cuts nationwide.

All of this came on top of a $300 million increase for Medicaid in Louisiana, designed to win the vote of Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu.

Under pressure from the White House to get a deal done by Christmas, Reid was unapologetic.

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buying votes to spend more of our money by…spending more of our money.

This is precisely why we need to limit federal gov’t. They take from citizens of all states and then give the money back only to states that behave.

insane.

I would not mind if a couple Italians and a Cadillac would go show Reid the Las Vegas desert.

to hell with the italians. can we spring craig titus for awhile? proven to be able to do the job.

I’m not sure exactly what the Constitutional argument would be, but is it Constitutional to lay taxes on citizens of some states while exempting the citizens of others?

Not that Reid could care in the least if it isn’t.

Reid’s approval rating as of Dec 4 was 38%.

It would be great if someone hacked various Congresscritter’s e-mail accounts – those that are trying to ram this through despite a large majority of Americans opposing it – so that whenever anyone e-mails to register objection, the Congresscritter writes back “F*(& YOU! JUST F(** YOU!!! This is how I’m going to vote and if you don’t like it you can just go F(** yourself!”

It would be more accurate than whatever form e-mail now automatically goes out.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I’m not sure exactly what the Constitutional argument would be, but is it Constitutional to lay taxes on citizens of some states while exempting the citizens of others?

Not that Reid could care in the least if it isn’t.[/quote]

How about taxing those that aren’t old enough to vote for you? Piling up debt to be paid by future generations is the definition of taxation without representation. Completely unacceptable.

They should be forced to pay for any new programs in the term they are elected. Just watch taxes soar and reelection rates plummet.

If we took away the power to borrow, a lot of other ills would sort themselves out.

Every American Owes to themselves to do everything they can to pay as little taxes as possible. In America it’s what makes you a patriot. We have a HUGE tax Code that’s never going away. Get an accountant and use that code to your advantage.

I feel that the problem is with the lazy population. People don’t pay taxes. Takes are taken. Then you file for a return AFTER THE FACT. The order of events is of supreme importance.

If everyone Held onto their money in a separate account and payed the govt once per year, politics in this country would a different story. I wonder how many billions the government sits on before they do the returns, and how much interest that money generates over the course of the year. It’s your money sitting there not working for you, but for the people holding it for you. You loose loose.

Use the existing tax system to your advantage in any way you can. Everyone in the government and on Obama’s cabinet are tax cheats. Even the tax law writers. lol. But they pump their pious bullshit to everyone. That’s life.

Excellent Press Release from Sen. McConnell (R-Ky). Jeez, even my most Leftist Progressive Populist friends are rejecting this abhorration of a bill. It’s nothing to no one except the people getting the sweet payoff for a yes vote:

http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=321054&start=1

Democrat Health Spending Bill: â??A departure from historyâ??
from the Office of Senator Mitch McConnell

Monday, December 21, 2009

â??Americans are asking Democrats to put party loyalty aside tonight â?? to put the interests of small business owners, taxpayers, and seniors first. All it takes is one. One can stop it â?? or every one will own it.â??

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell made the following remarks on the Senate floor Monday:

â??Tonight marks the culmination of a long national debate. Passions have run high. And, thatâ??s appropriate because the bill we are voting on tonight will impact the life of every American. It will shape the future of our country. It will determine whether our children can afford the nation they inherit. It is one of the most consequential votes any of us will ever take. And none of us take it lightly.

â??But make no mistake: if the people who wrote this bill were proud of it, they wouldnâ??t be forcing this vote in the dead of night

â??Here are just some of the deals weâ??ve noticed:

â??$100 million for an unnamed health care facility at an unnamed university somewhere in the United States â?? the bill doesnâ??t say where â?? and no one will even step forward to claim it.

â?? One state out of 50 gets to expand Medicaid at no cost to itself â?? while taxpayers in the other 49 states pick up the tab.

â??The same Senator who cut that deal secured another one that benefits a single insurance company â?? just one insurance company â?? based in his state.

â??Do the supporters of this bill know all this? Do they think itâ??s a fair deal for their states, for the rest of the country?

â??The fact is, a year after this debate started few people could have imagined that this is how it would end â?? with a couple of cheap deals and a rushed vote at one oâ??clock in the morning. But thatâ??s where we are.

â??And Americans are wondering tonight: How did this happen?

â??So Iâ??d like to take a moment to explain to the American people how we got here, to explain what happened â?? and whatâ??s happening now.

â??Everyone in this chamber agrees we need health care reform. The question is how?

â??Some of us have taken the view that the American people want us to tackle the cost issue, and weâ??ve proposed targeted steps to do it. Our friends on the other side have taken the opposite approach.

â??And the result has been just what youâ??d expect.

â??The final product is a mess â?? and so is the process thatâ??s brought us here to vote on a bill that the American people overwhelmingly oppose.

â??Any challenge of this size and scope has always been dealt with on a bipartisan basis. The senior Senator from Maine made that point at the outset of the debate, and reminded us all how these things have been handled throughout history…

â??The Social Security Act of 1935 was approved by all but six members of the Senate. The Medicare and Medicaid Acts of 1965 were approved by all but 21. All but eight senators voted for the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.

â??Americans believe that on issues of this importance, one party should never be allowed to force its will on the other half of the nation. The proponents of this bill felt differently.

â??In a departure from history, Democrat leaders put together a bill so heavy with tax hikes, Medicare cuts and government intrusion, that, in the end their biggest problem wasnâ??t convincing Republicans to support it, it was convincing the Democrats.

â??In the end, the price of passing this bill wasnâ??t achieving the reforms Americans were promised.

â??It was a blind call to make history, even if it was a historical mistake â?? which is exactly what this bill will be if itâ??s passed. Because, in the end, this debate isnâ??t about differences between two parties, itâ??s about a $2.3 trillion dollar, 2,733-page health care reform bill that does not reform health care and, in fact, makes its price go up

â??â??The plan Iâ??m announcing tonight,â?? the President said on September 9th, â??will slow the growth of health care costs for our families, our businesses, and our government.â??

â??â??My plan,â?? the President said, â??would bring down premiums by $2500 for the typical familyâ?¦â??

â??â??I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficit,â?? the President said, â??either now or in the future.â??

â??And, on taxes? â??No family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase,â?? he said.

â??He said he wouldnâ??t cut Medicare.

â??People who like the plans they have wouldnâ??t lose their coverage.

â??And, Americans were promised an open, honest debate. â??Thatâ??s what I will do in bringing all parties together,â?? then-Senator Obama said on the campaign trail, â??not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN.â??

â??That was then, and this is now.

â??But hereâ??s the reality: the Democrat bill weâ??re voting on tonight raises health care costs. Thatâ??s not me talking â?? thatâ??s the administrationâ??s own budget scorekeeper.

â??It raises premiums â?? thatâ??s the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office talking. It raises taxes on tens of millions of middle class Americans.

â??And, it plunders Medicare by half a trillion dollars It forces people off the plans they have â?? including millions of seniors.

â??It allows the federal government for the first time in our history to use taxpayer dollars for abortions.

â??So a President who was voted into office on the promise of change said he wanted lower premiums. That changed. He said he wouldnâ??t raise taxes. That changed. He said he wanted lower costs. That changed. He said he wouldnâ??t cut Medicare. And, that changed too.

â??And, twelve months and $2.3 trillion later, lawmakers who made these same promises to their constituents are poised to vote for a bill that wonâ??t bend the cost curve, that wonâ??t make health care more affordable and that will make real reform even harder to achieve down the road.

â??Now, I understand the pressure our friends on the other side are feeling, and, I donâ??t doubt for a moment their sincerity.

â??But, my message tonight is this: the impact of this vote will long outlive this one frantic, snowy weekend in Washington. Mark my words: this legislation will reshape our nation.

â??And, Americans have already issued their verdict: they donâ??t want it. They donâ??t like this bill â?? and they donâ??t like lawmakers playing games with their health care to secure the votes they need to pass it.

â??Letâ??s think about that for a moment. We know the American people are overwhelmingly opposed to this bill.

â??And yet, the people who wrote it wonâ??t give the 300 million Americans whose lives will be profoundly affected by it so much as 72 hours to study the details.

â??Imagine that: when we all woke up yesterday morning, we still hadnâ??t seen the details of the bill weâ??re being asked to vote on before we go to sleep tonight.

â??How can anyone justify this approach? Particularly in the face of such widespread and intense public opposition.

â??Can all of these Americans be wrong? Donâ??t their concerns count? Party loyalty can be a powerful force. We all know that.

â??But Americans are asking Democrats to put party loyalty aside tonight â?? to put the interests of small business owners, taxpayers, and seniors first

â??And thereâ??s good news â?? itâ??s not too late

â??All it takes is one. Just one. One can stop it â?? or every one will own it.

â??My colleagues: it is not too late.â??

Steely D, thanks for the speech from Rep McConnell. That speech sums it up. Americans do not want this, but one side of the isle thinks they know better than we do.

I fucking hate politicians. And I fucking hate Washington D.C.'s bullshit.

They have a license to steal.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
buying votes to spend more of our money by…spending more of our money.

This is precisely why we need to limit federal gov’t. They take from citizens of all states and then give the money back only to states that behave.

insane.[/quote]

though its a pipe dream, how bout just we dont need a federal government at all?

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Excellent Press Release from Sen. McConnell (R-Ky). Jeez, even my most Leftist Progressive Populist friends are rejecting this abhorration of a bill. It’s nothing to no one except the people getting the sweet payoff for a yes vote:

http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=321054&start=1
[/quote]

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The Federal Government is cutting the deficit though. This should be the best thing ever. Right? Dems are doing a great job of bait and switch. They sell us something and then do something else. The federal deficit might go down, but states deficits are about to go up. Medicaid is paid for mostly by the states. How is California going to pay for 3,000,000 more people on Medicaid. They can hardly pay their bills now. Other states are on the edge of going under, so why are the congress men and women allowing their states to go under. When the state government goes under the federal government can step in and take even more control.

Does anyone really believe the hundreds of billions of dollars of Medicare cuts?

Next will be “saving Medicare” with tax increases.

These allegedly forthcoming cuts are IMO a paper trick to downplay the cost of this bill.

I’d just like to say this to all the Obama fans: You stupid fucks. You just signed your own death warrant. This will usher in a decade of GOP control.
Well fucking done.

[quote]Valor wrote:
I’d just like to say this to all the Obama fans: You stupid fucks. You just signed your own death warrant. This will usher in a decade of GOP control.
Well fucking done.[/quote]

It will take longer to fix this mess.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Valor wrote:
I’d just like to say this to all the Obama fans: You stupid fucks. You just signed your own death warrant. This will usher in a decade of GOP control.
Well fucking done.[/quote]

It will take longer to fix this mess. [/quote]

It will also take someone other than the current crop of GOP retards.