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Homebrewing Discussion


#1

I promised rrjc I would add some homebrew threads to my sticky. I've been busy over the few weeks and I forgot to follow up his idea of starting a new homebrew thread where we can talk about experiences, methods, and recipes. It would be good to collect useful information in one place, things like BA/BB ratios and filtering.

I have no experience with homebrewing, but I know there are plenty of people on here who do, not least resident genius Bill Roberts.

Who wants to start this off?


#2

BA: I think 5% is a reasonable maximum, and 2% is a nicer figure.
BB: Up to 20%.

How much BA to use and how much BB to use are mostly independent issues. The importance is how much of each rather than how they relate to each other.

The only respect in which there is importance there is that since both are solubilizers, in some instances reducing one might require increasing the other, if wishing to keep the same mg/mL value.

For example if one had been used to using 5% BA and 10% BB at some particular mg/mL value and that value was really pushing it, then a decision to reduce the BA to 2% would require increasing the BB.

Along the general theme of the thread, the simplest Fina method is to use 38 mL of suitable oil for each 2 g of trenbolone acetate (whether powder or a cart of pellets that nominally contains this amount); sonicate in a jewelry sonicator until all is dissolved; or in the case of pellets there is only sludge remaining and no visible remnants of pellets; allow to settle; and filter.

In the case of powder the sonication is not necessary. Heating in a warm bath to example 55 C (use an insulin syringe through the septum with the plunger removed, so as to allow heated and expanded air to escape) or simply with quite hot but not boiling water will allow easy dissolution of the powder by swirling. One may have to return to the swirling from time to time as the process may not be immediate.

The sonicator is not actually necessary for the pellets either but much more patience is required with the pellets.

The above formula gives 50 mg/mL.

Usage of 2% BA / 20% BB allows at least 75 mg/mL, but if using the pellets the filter may be gummed up rapidly as a result of including the cosolvents.

The same general method above can be followed with other materials and adapted according to desired mg/mL.


#3

Excellent post, Bill, that's a brilliant start to the thread.


#4

Bump. I'll try and get this moving again by asking some naive questions. What equipment would be absolutely essential in any homebrew setup?


#5

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#6

Bastard. I had a good laugh at that though.


#7

Most recipes won't differ much for the oil based gear. Water based can be a bit trickier at first, but isn't hard at all.


#8

Oil
Powder
BA
BB
Vials
Syringes
Scale
Filter Units

Thats the basics.