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Holy Effing PIP


#1

Hey everybody. I started a test e and dianabol cycle. I have 500 mg/ml of test e. I'm taking 250 mg every three days and holy crap have I never experienced being hobbled up like this. I injected into my quad and four days later I'm still stiff as a board. I'm injecting into my quads for now. I checked the BA percentage and it's 2%. I'm assuming this is what is causing it. I do not believe it's an infection because I have no redness, fever, or edema. Just a crippling amount of pain.

Today was my next injection and I did my other quad to see if I may have hit the lymphatic system first time. I know that's rare for a quad injection but the swelling resembled it. Anyways, now my other quad is reacting the same way. I think it might be high BA so I ordered some sterile cottonseed oil to dilute it. Now I just need to know the best way of getting the two oils into the same syringe safely. If any much more experienced users have any idea about the pain I would greatly appreciate any knowledge and experience you have to share.

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#2

you’ll have to explain your pinning technique, size of needle, guage, length, etc. Some people don’t handle quads too well, try another muscle group. 2 % BA is the norm. If you’re doing everything right and it’s a virgin muscle then yes some soreness is expected.


#3

First off, 500mg/ml is an extremely high concentrated brew. You shouldn’t have even touched it if you worrying about a little PIP. I did a cycle of EQ that was dosed at 500mg/ml and god that shit felt like a horse kicked me in every site I injected. Warming up the oil prior to injecting makes a big difference, try it out. Also you should state your needle size and gauge, it might be other factors if you’re relatively new to this.


#4

I’m using a 23g 1.5" for pinning and I’m injecting about two thirds up my quad. I pull the skin tight and pin it fairly quickly I think. I don’t bury the needle all the way but most of it is easily in there. I mirowave some water in a mug and then put the vial in the mug to warm the oil first. I don’t submerge the vial as well. I draw back a bit to check for blood and if is good I inject slow until it’s all gone.

Slow is about twenty seconds the first time and just a little longer the last time. I figured this was going to hurt and I wanted 250 per ml but this was all I could get. This isn’t exactly a little pip either. It’s more like the horse kick. Is the cotton seed a no go??

If I mix the test 1:1 with the cottonseed then I would get a 250mg/ml if I’m shooting 250 at half a ml without the diluting right? I’ll try a glute shot next. I have some 25g 1.5 on the way but I don’t think the needle is the problem really. Barely fell it going in.