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Holder, Busted


#1

Getting ugly for the Attorney-General.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20115038-10391695.html


#2

Very good stuff Sloth. And I'm more than a little surprised that CBS reporters dug up the information. Maybe they sense Their chosen is losing his grip and they want to be the first to kick him to the curb. If this gets ugly it could look really bad by election day.


#3

What's up with all these nimrod czars Obama has put in power? Anyone remember the NASA dipshit? You played that videogame he made lol. Ya, what a great use of space exploration money, releasing some trainwreck videogame that is the laughing stock of the internet.

Lol what a suprise, this dipshit is another product of Obama's nepotism.


#4

House of Representatives - POLITICS
House Republicans to Request Special Counsel to Probe Holder on 'Fast and Furious'

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/04/house-republicans-to-request-special-counsel-to-probe-holder-on-fast-and/#ixzz1ZpgvFZMy


#5

Plenty of stuff for Obama and the WH to brush under the rug. Fast & Furious, Solyndra, Aunt and Uncle in the country illegally, but only racists would dare bring it up.

Zeb - I owe you, Christie announced he is NOT running for prez, you won our bet.


#6

The operative word here is "oops"


#7

Why not?

That's what shark's do when they sense chum in the water.

Mufasa


#8

If Holder was a conservative, the media would be losing their collective SHIT (see below)....fact.

NBC - ZOMG!!
CBS - WTF!!
ABC - PWNED!!
MSNBC - HEAD SHOT!!

FOX - LOL U MAD?

/Only really care because my family owns property in AZ that is on the illegals pipeline...no need to get those smugglers any more firepower than they already have.


#9

The question is how far can Congress take it? Is there a real chance of a charge to anyone person or will Holder resign and pass it down the line where Obama will pardon them before he is voted out?


#10

Issa isn't playing around.

http://oversight.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1474&Itemid=29


#11

Yes they do. And they should. On all sides. If I know you, you will agree. However you seem to say this as if to lament some sort of foul play by Issa's crew and by extension the GOP.


#12

It's just a statement of political fact, Tiribulus...no more, no less.

Also; I think that committees with names like "Government Oversight and Reform" and "Ethics" are some of the most hypocritical names that I think politicians could have ever come up with.

The "Punish Bastards I Can't Stand and I Want to Destroy" Committee or the "I Can't Believe That Shit Thought He Could Get Away with that and not Give Me a Cut of the Action/Piece O' That Ass" Committee are probably more honest and truthful.

Mufasa


#13

It's just a statement of political fact, Tiribulus...no more, no less.

Also; I think that committees with names like "Government Oversight and Reform" and "Ethics" are some of the most hypocritical names that I think politicians could have ever come up with.

The "Punish Bastards I Can't Stand and I Want to Destroy" Committee or the "I Can't Believe That Shit Thought He Could Get Away with that and not Give Me a Cut of the Action/Piece O' That Ass" Committee are probably more honest and truthful.

Mufasa


#14

While all true, it doesn't mean either that Holder didn't actually commit egregious ethical violations, or that he doesn't deserve everything he's going to get.

It may just mean that this is one of the few justified cases and that standard bias is accurate in this case.


#15

As to what Holder did or didn't do; I'm still waiting for the facts to come out and for some of the Political fumes to clear.

I will say this...there is a War going on in Mexico, with more civilians dying everyday than in Afghanistan. I will be placing whatever "egregious ethical violations" were committed within the context of War.

Mufasa


#16

And are you thinking aiding the endangerment and murder of US citezens is more or less grievous in war?

Would that not escalate his infractions to the level of treason if he was aiding the war time enemies of the US?


#17

Duce:

I'll answer that question (if I can) if you eliminate all the hyperbole and the inference that Holder deliberately wishes to bring harm to U.S. citizens.

Mufasa


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#19

Again...no one...(even "PWI") knows what he's done or hasn't done

Mufasa


#20

Chum. An appropriate word, considering the US walked weapons, under the observation of the US government, at the scenes of multiple homicides. And with many more guns still out there, the chum--as you say--will continue to spread it's rotten and bloody scent in the water. Someone either screwed up really, really, badly, or criminally assisted these drug lords in the acquisition of weapons. The former is the most likely, in my opinion.

Either way, this is a huge problem and an investigation was/is absolutely justified. Unfortunately, Holder's earlier testimony seems to be contradicted by emails. Take note, the link I started this off with does not take one to the dreaded "FAUX NEWS."